The Coates family are spending their own money and can afford to write off debts. Wagner fronts a group of investors who may eventually decide they've had enough and look to get out while leaving the club with the debts.Yes they can afford to do a 'Stoke' and waste a few hundred million trying to get promotion. But until they come up with a proper plan they will always be up against Prem money and sides like ours that keep improving slowly. Signing a new team every season stops continuity which is very important.
The investment into Birmingham City is in the form of loans with a 12% interest rate.The Coates family are spending their own money and can afford to write off debts. Wagner fronts a group of investors who may eventually decide they've had enough and look to get out while leaving the club with the debts.
Roman Abramovich loaned Chelsea over £1 billion didn't he?The investment into Birmingham City is in the form of loans with a 12% interest rate.
He did, though it was at a market interest rateRoman Abramovich loaned Chelsea over £1 billion didn't he?
Birmingham can afford to just make mistakes and reload with more players and if that doesn’t work sack the manager and if that doesn’t work sign a load more players in the summer until eventually it does work.
We don’t have that luxury of time or money thank god.
Clearly hoping to get promoted before that becomes relevant, like a number of other clubs before them.How much time does Birmingham actually have though?
FFP will kick in and as others have mentioned, the investors may scale back their interest in the club and leave them in the lurch.
and he basically was never serious about collecting, the interest on the blues loans makes me think the fund that owns them will want that cash backHe did, though it was at a market interest rate
True, though I did always wonder why someone not serious about collecting it wouldn't have simply just written it off/gifted it/pumped it in with a bogus Man City-style sponsorship deal.and he basically was never serious about collecting, the interest on the blues loans makes me think the fund that owns them will want that cash back
I don't disagree. But my point of Stoke using the scattergun approach and wasting hundreds of millions just to finish in the bottom half of the table most of the time is similar to the Birmingham approach. Buy good players at an inflated prices but never a team. Spending up to 10m per player in League one gives a massive advantage but the Championship is a different animal.The Coates family are spending their own money and can afford to write off debts. Wagner fronts a group of investors who may eventually decide they've had enough and look to get out while leaving the club with the debts.
I'm not so sure. They have some kind of TV deal I haven't got a clue about. How much is it worth for the bottom line? It gives a route for fantasy accounting.How much time does Birmingham actually have though?
FFP will kick in and as others have mentioned, the investors may scale back their interest in the club and leave them in the lurch.
I’m not convinced we’ll spend on transfer fees this window.Listened to the ‘Not the top 20’ mid season predictions and Ali quite rightly pointed out that Esse is a good signing and may eventually take Sakamoto place in the team but it’s not like when Leeds added Solomon or Burnley added Marcus Edwards. I know they were parachute teams but I just hope we don’t look back and regret not ‘going for it’. Still a long way to go in the window and though so hopefully still another 1 or 2 to come in.
he's played winger every time i have seen him so not needed
I’m not convinced we’ll spend on transfer fees this window.
Personally think it’s for the best for him. The championship is a very difficult place to blood young players especially in defence as you can see at Sheffield Wednesdays who have been forced into it.I have just read that Callum Perry is going out on loan to Rochdale. Shame, as we have not seem him play and he could have had a chance, especially this season. But perhaps his outgoing loan means someone is coming in
Agreed. We all knew we needed wingers and it’s good the club acted so fast to bring in two of quality imo especially Esse.We’ve done well to get Esse and Minny in so quickly. Jan is a tough window. I reckon any additional players will now happen in the last week of the window.
I’m not convinced we’ll spend on transfer fees this window.
Put yourself in Kings seat. If he spends money on a transfer it essentially has to be on someone they consider good enough for the prem. That equates to big money. If we don’t make it that then becomes a big issue. Short loans that can have an impact are exactly the right option. Personally I think we will sign a midfielder for depth but it won’t be big money.I’m not convinced we’ll spend on transfer fees this window.
We have to be sustainable and balance the books what have we spent in transfer fees since the end of last season ? Around £7 million ?Put yourself in Kings seat. If he spends money on a transfer it essentially has to be on someone they consider good enough for the prem. That equates to big money. If we don’t make it that then becomes a big issue. Short loans that can have an impact are exactly the right option. Personally I think we will sign a midfielder for depth but it won’t be big money.
Put yourself in Kings seat. If he spends money on a transfer it essentially has to be on someone they consider good enough for the prem. That equates to big money. If we don’t make it that then becomes a big issue. Short loans that can have an impact are exactly the right option. Personally I think we will sign a midfielder for depth but it won’t be big money.
Have another read.“We will definitely make it so it has to be big money, but then what if we don’t make it??”
Have another read.
Well then you'd have to consider what market is like that you're selling into, clubs will try to harm us financially?Nah I got it in one. Youre overthinking it like everyone else. We need a first team capable CM, the best we can afford. We can probably gamble a bit more and get a bit better cos it looks like we’ll go up but as you admit it isn’t guaranteed so we do need the reinforcements.
Teams are allowed to sell and loa players once they go up, we aren’t forced to keep every player we sign. Get what the team needs now and worry about PL players when we’re in the PL. the aim is always to get players who can step up but that requires a good scouting team and the ability to convince players to join us and not West Ham or Burnley.
We were never going to go for it. That's not King's style.Listened to the ‘Not the top 20’ mid season predictions and Ali quite rightly pointed out that Esse is a good signing and may eventually take Sakamoto place in the team but it’s not like when Leeds added Solomon or Burnley added Marcus Edwards. I know they were parachute teams but I just hope we don’t look back and regret not ‘going for it’. Still a long way to go in the window and though so hopefully still another 1 or 2 to come in.
I really doubt he was the best player available. Thats just your sky blue gogglesSpending money doesn’t necessarily mean you get a better player. I doubt we could of signed better than Esse in this window.
Trust the club to find the right player
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