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  • Start date May 11, 2024
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Evo1883

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #71
bigfatronssba said:
Because selfish people are abusing the system designed to help families
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Would be sold out anyway , the pricing is still bad outside the zone for kids
 

bigfatronssba

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #72
Deleted member 9744 said:
I thought we were talking about prices generally. I certainly don't support people abusing the system for children's tickets.

What I take issue with is the attitude that the customer pays for any ambition. It works the other way round. The club has to provide a product we want to buy. The reality is many people won’t unless they like the product, especially in the current circumstances that I outlined.
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I was purely talking about the abuse of FZ tickets.

I agree that tickets in general should be reasonably priced, and that Doug King has a responsibility to provide a product we want before expecting us to fork out for it
 

bigfatronssba

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #73
Evo1883 said:
Would be sold out anyway , the pricing is still bad outside the zone for kids
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I'm not disagreeing, but what are you basing that on? Is it higher than most of the Championship?
 

Evo1883

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #74
bigfatronssba said:
I'm not disagreeing, but what are you basing that on? Is it higher than most of the Championship?
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It's one of the worst ..

So much so that sunderland didn't even sell out all their tickets as some fans refused to pay the prices for kids

If a family of 4 wanted to watch a cat a game at coventry last season it would have cost them around £130 pound even if their kids were 6 and 7
 

bigfatronssba

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #75
Evo1883 said:
It's one of the worst ..

So much so that sunderland didn't even sell out all their tickets as some fans refused to pay the prices for kids
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But is that factoring in the FZ generous prices?
 

Evo1883

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #76
bigfatronssba said:
But is that factoring in the FZ generous prices?
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How can we factor that in when most families at the stadium don't benefit from it ? Tons of kids in Singers corner alone

Its an exclusive zone now with a waiting list unless people don't renew
 

bigfatronssba

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #77
Evo1883 said:
How can we factor that in when most families at the stadium don't benefit from it ? Tons of kids in Singers corner alone

Its an exclusive zone now with a waiting list unless people don't renew
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I agree, and isn't that all the more reason to discourage abuse of it?
 
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Sbarcher

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #78
I seem to remember that when Sky appeared with their big fat wallet it was suggested that ticket prices could drop significantly ( even suggested for free).
Bit like when NG was discovered in the North Sea our energy bills would be slashed!
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #79
The club has to generate funds to be competitive on the pitch it's fairly simple especially when you get in to the world of only so much in losses you can make etc. We have been lucky with our ticket prices for a long while especially kids ones. I'll give an example soft play probably wouldn't be put forward as a luxury form of entertainment however each session would be £5.50 at my local soft play (before drinks and snacks) if you did that 23 times a year that would be £126.50, football is an absolute bargain.
 

Grendel

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #80
skyblu3sk said:
The club has to generate funds to be competitive on the pitch it's fairly simple especially when you get in to the world of only so much in losses you can make etc. We have been lucky with our ticket prices for a long while especially kids ones. I'll give an example soft play probably wouldn't be put forward as a luxury form of entertainment however each session would be £5.50 at my local soft play (before drinks and snacks) if you did that 23 times a year that would be £126.50, football is an absolute bargain.
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This is irrelevant though as a comparison.
 

Grendel

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #81
Evo1883 said:
Just make season tickets 1000 pound each to please all the price hike weirdos on here , after all we can't have a good team unless the fans pay for it ..

Jog on
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The whole argument is nonsense.

The tickets rise higher im sure as the seasons went on but it’s not comparative

- the stadium arrangement was then a disaster. There was no revenue from anything other than ticket sales. It was an impossible arrangement to compete. Nothing like now

- the actual rental cost then was far more expensive - if you build inflation in it was crippling

- I think next season the TV revenue is huge - around £13m - it was hardly anything then

- Transfer fees out are huge now compared to then

You can only compare if it’s a comparable circumstance- it certainly is not. Ticket revenue now is a fraction of the contribution it was then
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #82
Grendel said:
This is irrelevant though as a comparison.
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Why is it? It's entertainment for children...
 

Grendel

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #83
skyblu3sk said:
Why is it? It's entertainment for children...
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Because the ticket is paid. If a season ticket in a play area was £126 and the child went once why would it be removed if you’ve as a parent paid for it?
 

pusbccfc

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #84
Evo1883 said:
No , we need him to not fleece fans , end of
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Well, absolutely. I was annoyed with the prices last season and if he raises mine to over £450 (I don't have the PL package) I'll be as mad as anyone.

Ultimately, we've changed our approach to fit in with everyone else and it's working for Doug. Many of the £37 games remained high crowds. I still cannot believe we managed 29k against QPR.
 

Blind-Faith

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #85
Wouldn’t surprise me if they went to over £500 , they can then say “ well you had your chance last season to keep them as an affordable price “ blah blah blah
 

MalcSB

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #86
Evo1883 said:
Amazing how fans don't care about doug putting in his own cash , and think its up to the supporters to pay for us to be a proper club .. but wanky sisu were told for years they had to pay for the product to make fans want to go ?

Would have been interesting to see what happened if we never had the vik or hamer money ,what would the team have been like this year
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Presumably we would still have had Vik and Hamer.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #87
Grendel said:
Because the ticket is paid. If a season ticket in a play area was £126 and the child went once why would it be removed if you’ve as a parent paid for it?
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I'm not sure if you are intentionally missing the point I was making or are being daft. The difference in this case is you wouldn't have to reserve a place in a play area...
 

MalcSB

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #88
Evo1883 said:
That's not the point when we're talking about what doug has spent of his own money
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If he runs the business properly, he doesn’t need to. And that means maximising income from TV, sporting competitions, merchandise, share of F&B and season tickets.
 

Grendel

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  • May 11, 2024
  • #89
skyblu3sk said:
I'm not sure if you are intentionally missing the point I was making or are being daft. The difference in this case is you wouldn't have to reserve a place in a play area...
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Exactly so it’s a stupid comparison - it’s just irrelevant. I mean the play area could be open on Saturday - you pay then it’s moved to Tuesday at 8 pm - would you demand a refund if you couldn’t go?
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #90
Grendel said:
Exactly so it’s a stupid comparison - it’s just irrelevant. I mean the play area could be open on Saturday - you pay then it’s moved to Tuesday at 8 pm - would you demand a refund if you couldn’t go?
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The only point I was making is kids tickets are cheap in comparison to other forms of entertainment you are conflating two different things. Or attempting to...
 

Evo1883

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #91
Seems doug doesn't agree with all the price hike people on here fair play

Does he know we can't pay the electric without screwing the fans ?
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #92
Grendel said:
I mean the play area could be open on Saturday - you pay then it’s moved to Tuesday at 8 pm - would you demand a refund if you couldn’t go?
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Genuine question as I don't really keep track but do the majority of season tickets get sold after the fixtures are released? I always buy mine as soon as they're on sale, or at the latest the first payday after they've gone on sale.

Never really occurred to me that the majority of supporters wait until the fixtures are published and then work out if there's a cost benefit on the assumption we won't have a single home game moved for tv.
 

Grendel

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #93
chiefdave said:
Genuine question as I don't really keep track but do the majority of season tickets get sold after the fixtures are released? I always buy mine as soon as they're on sale, or at the latest the first payday after they've gone on sale.

Never really occurred to me that the majority of supporters wait until the fixtures are published and then work out if there's a cost benefit on the assumption we won't have a single home game moved for tv.
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Well they buy on the assumption a lot of fixtures will be as scheduled and the scheduled fixtures this season include the majority on Saturday at 3 - I think we played 5
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #94
Evo1883 said:
Seems doug doesn't agree with all the price hike people on here fair play

Does he know we can't pay the electric without screwing the fans ?
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Doug is an idiot how the hell are we going to play night games now?
 
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wingy

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #95
Grendel said:
Well they buy on the assumption a lot of fixtures will be as scheduled and the scheduled fixtures this season include the majority on Saturday at 3 - I think we played 5
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That reads at 3-1 when I'm not quoting you, very prophetic I think!
 

chiefdave

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #96
Grendel said:
Well they buy on the assumption a lot of fixtures will be as scheduled and the scheduled fixtures this season include the majority on Saturday at 3 - I think we played 5
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I'll be honest. it's never even crossed my mind to wait until the fixtures are published to decide if I'm buying or not

But if thats what the majority to surely in this day and age you do so with an expectation that fixtures being moved is highly likely, not like its something Sky suddenly decided to start doing last season

People will surely be more aware then ever going into next season given the impact the cup run had and all the publicity the new TV deal has had
 

Grendel

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #97
chiefdave said:
I'll be honest. it's never even crossed my mind to wait until the fixtures are published to decide if I'm buying or not

But if thats what the majority to surely in this day and age you do so with an expectation that fixtures being moved is highly likely, not like its something Sky suddenly decided to start doing last season

People will surely be more aware then ever going into next season given the impact the cup run had and all the publicity the new TV deal has had
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So refunds will be offered in other areas if fixtures are changed?
 
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theferret

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #98
Evo1883 said:
Seems doug doesn't agree with all the price hike people on here fair play

Does he know we can't pay the electric without screwing the fans ?
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They'll all be praising him for getting it right. Had he hiked them £100, they'd have praised him for getting it right.

Our ST prices are fair, hope there is a big take up. Our matchday prices are about the most expensive in the league, so hope they come down a touch.
 
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torchomatic

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #99
I found one from 2010.
 
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MalcSB

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #100
is this really clear

For Emirates FA Cup fixtures, where Coventry City may be required to provide 15% of capacity to the away side, the Sky Blues are advising supporters in the South Stand that they would be required to purchase tickets in a different location for any affected game – however these fans would receive priority access to buy elsewhere.

Presumably this means priority to buy elsewhere that a season ticket is not already in place?
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #101
MalcSB said:
is this really clear

For Emirates FA Cup fixtures, where Coventry City may be required to provide 15% of capacity to the away side, the Sky Blues are advising supporters in the South Stand that they would be required to purchase tickets in a different location for any affected game – however these fans would receive priority access to buy elsewhere.

Presumably this means priority to buy elsewhere that a season ticket is not already in place?
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That's what it will mean yes , lots of clubs have to provide this service
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #102
torchomatic said:
I found one from 2010.View attachment 35646View attachment 35647
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Good old Sammy, even looking sidewards on that picture
 
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theferret

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #103
MalcSB said:
is this really clear

For Emirates FA Cup fixtures, where Coventry City may be required to provide 15% of capacity to the away side, the Sky Blues are advising supporters in the South Stand that they would be required to purchase tickets in a different location for any affected game – however these fans would receive priority access to buy elsewhere.

Presumably this means priority to buy elsewhere that a season ticket is not already in place?
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Yes, or priority to buy seats of other season ticket holders that have not reserved their seats for the game, and there are usually loads of those.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #104
Grendel said:
So refunds will be offered in other areas if fixtures are changed?
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Why would it be? Do you get a pro rata discount if you buy your season ticket after the initial fixture announcement knowing there's games you won't be able to attend?

I don't see how anyone can with all honest say there bought a season ticket with the expectation that it was guaranteed we would have zero fixtures selected for TV

Do other clubs offer season ticket holders refunds when games are moved?
 

Grendel

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  • May 12, 2024
  • #105
chiefdave said:
Why would it be? Do you get a pro rata discount if you buy your season ticket after the initial fixture announcement knowing there's games you won't be able to attend?

I don't see how anyone can with all honest say there bought a season ticket with the expectation that it was guaranteed we would have zero fixtures selected for TV

Do other clubs offer season ticket holders refunds when games are moved?
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How many other clubs have this policy for one part of the stadium?
 
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