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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #246
Ring Of Steel said:
what are you defending, the fact you have information, or the non stop gossip, and the total lack of any filter between hearing said information & spewing it all over here?
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Defending you constantly crying about it
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #247
Saddlebrains said:
Defending you constantly crying about it
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Viktor17

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #248
why are people getting worked up about people sharing information - if you don’t like it or want to believe it, fine scroll on or don’t engage.

Others may find it interesting and useful as an incite to what’s going on - of course there’s always a balance to be struck with the narrative and message shared, that’s down to you to figure out.

Don’t see why people are getting on at members like @Saddlebrains et al.
 
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Bigelvesy

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #249
Viktor17 said:
why are people getting worked up about people sharing information - if you don’t like it or want to believe it, fine scroll on or don’t engage.

Others may find it interesting and useful as an incite to what’s going on - of course there’s always a balance to be struck with the narrative and message shared, that’s down to you to figure out.

Don’t see why people are getting on at members like @Saddlebrains et al.
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Because of your second paragraph.
He doesn't share information, he shares a narrative which is either consciously or unconsciously negatively biased.
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #250
Bigelvesy said:
Because of your second paragraph.
He doesn't share information, he shares a narrative which is either consciously or unconsciously negatively biased.
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It is information though isn't it

You're view on it is it's biased. Either way it is information.

Here's the dictionary definition to help you

1.
facts provided or learned about something or someone.
"a vital piece of information"

2.
what is conveyed or represented by a particular arrangement or sequence of things.
"genetically transmitted information
 

Sky Blue Goblin

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #251
Sorry but ITKs are not reporters. They are of course bias based on the information provided. Saddle has bias based on what he’s heard (or his source does). Why does that mean the information is not real. Take it with a pinch of salt or don’t read it.

And Saddle, get back out there and get me my pictures of make robins sacking Chris Ramsey’s hand.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #252
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Sorry but ITKs are not reporters. They are of course bias based on the information provided. Saddle has bias based on what he’s heard (or his source does). Why does that mean the information is not real. Take it with a pinch of salt or don’t read it.

And Saddle, get back out there and get me my pictures of make robins sacking Chris Ramsey’s hand.
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It’s one side’s perspective. We don’t hear the other and the truth will be somewhere between.
 
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Bigelvesy

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #253
Doug wont sanction loans
Except the multiple times ive posted my source has said we’re looking at loans.

This is the bullshit i have a problem with, like i said, the facts are we dont have any loans, the claim this has anything to do with Doug either exposes the source as waffle or that Saddle likes to baseless assumptions to it
 

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Bigelvesy

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #254
Saddlebrains said:
It is information though isn't it

You're view on it is it's biased. Either way it is information.

Here's the dictionary definition to help you

1.
facts provided or learned about something or someone.
"a vital piece of information"

2.
what is conveyed or represented by a particular arrangement or sequence of things.
"genetically transmitted information
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When you start giving facts i’ll start paying attention
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #255
Bigelvesy said:
1. Was reported in the swedish gossip columns linking us directly?
2. “Doug refuses” This cant be proven, all that can be proven is we dont currently have any loans in the team, but others on here have posted that we were looking at at least twoz. That cant be proven either obv.
3. Old Source
4. Who cares? Leaking a team teamsheet is very different to all the other things you claim to be in the loop on.
5. Old Source
6. Old Source
7. Others on here were there on kits first

Id argue you’re very rarely definitively shown to be correct.
"correlation does not imply causation"
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he is the Derek Acorah of SBT
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #256
Ring Of Steel said:
he is the Derek Acorah of SBT
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Mary loves dick is still one of my favourite TV moments.
 
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TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #257
Bigelvesy said:
Because of your second paragraph.
He doesn't share information, he shares a narrative which is either consciously or unconsciously negatively biased.
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Compared to what GIMOC comes out with its a ray of sunshine. I think GIMOCs info, especially last summer, was purposely negative and complete hogwash. (Seems to have reined it in a bit recently tbf.)
Saddles stuff I think its fairly easy to tell what is likely to be accurate and what to take with a pinch of salt. Team news stuff I get why some might not like it, personally I doubt opposition staff read through this shite. I like getting it so I just ask via DM.

Ultimately this is just a place for fans to spew all things ccfc, be you a dubious itk, a waffler, a bed wetter, a Robins outer or Doug King undercover. Probably best not to take it too seriously.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #258
TomRad85 said:
Compared to what GIMOC comes out with its a ray of sunshine. I think GIMOCs info, especially last summer, was purposely negative and complete hogwash. (Seems to have reined it in a bit recently tbf.)
Saddles stuff I think its fairly easy to tell what is likely to be accurate and what to take with a pinch of salt. Team news stuff I get why some might not like it, personally I doubt opposition staff read through this shite. I like getting it so I just ask via DM.

Ultimately this is just a place for fans to spew all things ccfc, be you a dubious itk, a waffler, a bed wetter, a Robins outer or Doug King undercover. Probably best not to take it too seriously.
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GIMOC usually crawls back under his stone when one of his is shown to be nonsense, like Sheaf being out for months.

I agree with you, it’s no big deal really- I just got pissed off with the pettiness of some of it & how it’s always negative.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #259
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s one side’s perspective. We don’t hear the other and the truth will be somewhere between.
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And that’s ultimately a problem when people take one side as ultimately truthful. In life there’s three truths, your side, there side and the truth.

Saddle will only give the side he’s heard as most would. I think the responsibility is with people who hear it and assume it’s the ccfc bible. Listen to it, digest it and take it with salt.

On this maybe the truth is the club is trying to support robins through a tough time with a new assistant and Robins doesn’t think it’s needed. No ones the villian but you could twist it to Robins won’t allow help or Doug is forcing people on Robins.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #260
Bigelvesy said:
Doug wont sanction loans
Except the multiple times ive posted my source has said we’re looking at loans.

This is the bullshit i have a problem with, like i said, the facts are we dont have any loans, the claim this has anything to do with Doug either exposes the source as waffle or that Saddle likes to baseless assumptions to it
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Transfers are a real hard point to stick someone with only as it changes within hours.

On loans, I do believe Doug would allow them like Binks last year but believe he wants either experienced players on high wages or prospects we have a chance to purchase like Binks.

Think the issue is, the communication opportunities aren’t the best so since the club won’t answer a) we’ve heard this policy is it our approach? It leads to sources making assumptions which then can look true to others based on circumstances which then people pass on.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #261
So Saddles a claxon that needs, silencing and reverts to DM's, that's hardly an open conversation is it?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #262
Viktor17 said:
why are people getting worked up about people sharing information - if you don’t like it or want to believe it, fine scroll on or don’t engage.

Others may find it interesting and useful as an incite to what’s going on - of course there’s always a balance to be struck with the narrative and message shared, that’s down to you to figure out.
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You've answered your own question there I think. The negative rumours far outweigh the positive so clearly those leaking have their own agenda. Problem is a lot of people will ignore the times the various ITKs have been wrong and take everything as 100% true. Year after year we've been told there's trouble behind the scenes, the players don't get on, the new players who have come in have been disruptive etc, who does that help?

For me its incredibly unprofessional, if I was leaking information from my completely unimportant job nobody gives a shit about I'd be in trouble, its not a good reflection on the club that this has been going on for years.

Personally I don't think the team should be announced on here well ahead of the match. In a game of small margins why would you risk giving away an advantage no matter how small that risk is.

Then there's the things about people personal lives. I don't for a second believe the things that have been revealed about the likes of Robins and McFadz weren't known by local media so they've clearly been asked not to make it public yet its on here. That's before you get to the absolute bollocks we've had about 'players wife / gf hates Cov and is desperate to leave'.

A lot of the other stuff is subjective but quickly starts getting posted by others as a cast iron fact. I think what winds people up is it's always overwhelming negative.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #263
chiefdave said:
You've answered your own question there I think. The negative rumours far outweigh the positive so clearly those leaking have their own agenda. Problem is a lot of people will ignore the times the various ITKs have been wrong and take everything as 100% true. Year after year we've been told there's trouble behind the scenes, the players don't get on, the new players who have come in have been disruptive etc, who does that help?

For me its incredibly unprofessional, if I was leaking information from my completely unimportant job nobody gives a shit about I'd be in trouble, its not a good reflection on the club that this has been going on for years.

Personally I don't think the team should be announced on here well ahead of the match. In a game of small margins why would you risk giving away an advantage no matter how small that risk is.

Then there's the things about people personal lives. I don't for a second believe the things that have been revealed about the likes of Robins and McFadz weren't known by local media so they've clearly been asked not to make it public yet its on here. That's before you get to the absolute bollocks we've had about 'players wife / gf hates Cov and is desperate to leave'.

A lot of the other stuff is subjective but quickly starts getting posted by others as a cast iron fact. I think what winds people up is it's always overwhelming negative.
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Regardless of the bollux around Av's exit do we think we're in a better place, seriously, where is the turnaround?
 

False9

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #264
False9 said:
I understand this is complete bollocks
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ITK
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #265
I think saddle is alright 2bh. Generally the stuff is good.

At the end of the day ITKs are like the transfer gossip page, if they come off the come off, if not - you move on, it doesn’t massively affect anyone’s life here if it’s right or wrong.

some serious issues if you take heart to rumours coming out of a football club
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #266
Mike Bassett
 

eyesee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #267
we also have to accept that a perfectly good bit of insider knowledge one minute can become out of date if terms aren't agreed etc.
doesn't mean the original info wasn't accurate at the time.
 
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Cov98

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2024
  • #268
God almighty the international break can't end soon enough.

We're shitting the bed over a bloke sharing a rumour he heard.

Some of you lot take this way too seriously
 
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SkyB

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  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #269
Need to get the Fifa administrators in here ASAP.

As soon as they see the shite posted on here during international breaks they'll be stopped immediately.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #270
I've got to say it doesn't surprise me regarding Sheaf and I doubt if he really needs that excuse, always felt all the transfer chat would leave him unsettled,and yes may be gone sooner at Christmas time,, Doug was correct to market him IMO but not at any of the fee's bandied on here!
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #271
Posting inbound rumours is okay, it's the posting stuff you know is nonsense for web forum clout that is not really on.

The club are reading what people post, we had an "itk" saying it was the clubs call on closing the A444 after games so the club issued a statement to address "online talk" showing someone was making stuff up for clout.

Also the team news is a cunts trick, the club doesn't want it out there before 2pm so don't fucking do it. Also it's more fun to wait until 2pm to find out the XI.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #272
So what's happening with this appointment?

Is it dead, are we still recruiting for the position?
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #273
What are people even arguing about? Handbag city in here
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #274
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
So what's happening with this appointment?

Is it dead, are we still recruiting for the position?
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A quick Google brings up he’s involved in an employment tribunal about a former player at QPR, to be heard next year
 

Wyken Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #275
So what's going on here then, has an Assistant Manager to Mark Robins been announced yet?
 

usskyblue

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  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #276
Not happening now apparently. Not prepared to go into details but it wasn’t approved to move forward at this time.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #277
usskyblue said:
Not happening now apparently. Not prepared to go into details but it wasn’t approved to move forward at this time.
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Fair enough.

Maybe Mark or the club didn’t think it was either the right time or fit. Thanks for sharing anyway bud.

On a positive note look like the club are finally having that team bonding days like the bowling last year.

 
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usskyblue

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  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #278
It seems Robins may have reached out initially, so was onboard. However it didn’t get any further.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #279
Saddlebrains said:
If this is true don't expect to see Robins around much longer

I've just been told he doesn't want this
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usskyblue said:
It seems Robins may have reached out initially, so was onboard. However it didn’t get any further.
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usskyblue

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  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #280
chiefdave said:
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From what I can make out, Robins may have reached out based on a recommendation from within (the latter part not confirmed but CR is known by at least two people already at the club).
 
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