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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #176
Makes zero sense to force an assistant manager on Robins that he doesn't want unless King really doesn't want Robins at the club.

Bit of a shambles really from sacking the assistant manager day before pre season, advertising for a new assistant manager and then deciding against it and then changing your mind again 3 months down the line and appointing an assistant the manager doesn't want.

King has really fucked this up
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #177
eyesee said:
chris houghton?
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Its the QPR bloke why are we still guessing?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #178
BUSA said:
Ramsey managerial record is 32 games W9 D6 L17 - Win % 28.13 - definitely not a person I’d want in charge - good coach but clearly not a manager
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When did he last coach ?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #179
Evo1883 said:
When did he last coach ?
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No idea.

First impressions, he's a knowledgeable and well respected guy but not sure he has the drive, determination and intensity to drive training and coaching sessions days after day over a season.

Comes across as he's been happy in his back seat technical role at QPR for the last 8 years or however long it is.
 
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eyesee

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #180
shmmeee said:
Its the QPR bloke why are we still guessing?
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i hope to fuck robins is onboard with that.
they take his no2 outside and shoot him in the head, then bring in someone else.
he has to have a big say in things like this.
 
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eyesee

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #181
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
No idea.

First impressions, he's a knowledgeable and well respected guy but not sure he has the drive, determination and intensity to drive training and coaching sessions days after day over a season.

Comes across as he's been happy in his back seat technical role at QPR for the last 8 years or however long it is.
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we need someone who's gonna wake the fuckers up.
preferably before we are 2 down.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #182
Based on Uss last post. Robins met him yesterday and following that contracts have been discussed with Doug. Doesn’t sound like Robins didn’t want him. If anything sounds like Robins gave the all clear for contract discussions to start.
 
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ptr

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #183
BUSA said:
Ramsey managerial record is 32 games W9 D6 L17 - Win % 28.13 - definitely not a person I’d want in charge - good coach but clearly not a manager
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Good job he’s not coming in as manager then.
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #184
fernandopartridge said:
Yeah, the opposition are going to completely ignore the preparations they've made through the week off the back of a rumour they've seen on SBT
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We're in an era where people are hiding at training grounds and flying drones to try and get the slightest bit of information. Not a huge leap to think it's known by other clubs that there's a leak and the team will be posted in advance week in week out.

Do I think we're losing games because of it, probably not, but anyone in sports will talk to you about small margins so personally I wouldn't take the slightest risk of giving the opposition an advantage.

Not to mention personal things have been leaked out on more than one occasion. Things that I'd imagine all the local media are aware of but have been asked not to report on yet people think it's fine to post on here. Everyone is entitled to privacy in their private lives.
Deity said:
It’s funny how our ITK’s mainly post negative rumours ….
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Every season we get told the new signings don't fit in and the squad don't get on / have fallen out. Then the next year we get told the problem is the squad dynamic has changed from the year before and its causing problems
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #185
Evo1883 said:
When did he last coach ?
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My concern is like Dr. Claire he’s not been at the coal face of a club much aside from QPR and a bit in the states. Experience is all a bit academic at places like academies and the FA.

That’s not a disqualifier in and of itself but when that’s all you’ve got across the club you lack a little real world know how. Also 62…
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #186
mmttww said:


Feels like you and a few others need a hug tbh
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We are All Cov City & still pissed off about the Sheff Wed result as we stare into a riveting international break
shmmeee said:
My concern is like Dr. Claire he’s not been at the coal face of a club much aside from QPR and a bit in the states. Experience is all a bit academic at places like academies and the FA.

That’s not a disqualifier in and of itself but when that’s all you’ve got you lack a little real world know how. Also 62…
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62 & not a face
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #187
CovValleyBoy said:
We are All Cov City & still pissed off about the Sheff Wed result as we stare into a riveting international break

62 & not a face
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Not about being a face. But about knowing what you’re walking into and the types of people you’ll be working with. Day to day management at a large club is very different to improving young players or making PowerPoints at the FA with no real pressure on results.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #188
shmmeee said:
My concern is like Dr. Claire he’s not been at the coal face of a club much aside from QPR and a bit in the states. Experience is all a bit academic at places like academies and the FA.

That’s not a disqualifier in and of itself but when that’s all you’ve got you lack a little real world know how. Also 62…
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He's been at QPR who in his time were a premier league and then championship club and he was head coach for a bit in both leagues. Viveash had been with Chelsea's academy.

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shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #189
eyesee said:
we need someone who's gonna wake the fuckers up.
preferably before we are 2 down.
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We need to get Aled Williams onto sleep coaching duty.
After seeing what he has done on his last two assignments - Keepers and Defence, they'll be wide awake!!!!
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #190
fernandopartridge said:
He's been at QPR who in his time were a premier league and then championship club and he was head coach for a bit in both leagues. Viveash had been with Chelsea's academy.

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Yeah he has and that’s something. But it was one season where he didn’t do particularly well (got relegated then got sacked). Most of his experience is away from the first team though.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #191
Thinking about it more though, looking at his history, it does point more to the criteria being focused on player development (or asset appreciation for Dougie) which I don't know whether we need any more of or not.

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jordan210

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #192
Please be Steve Evans just for giggles
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #193
shmmeee said:
Yeah he has and that’s something. But it was one season where he didn’t do particularly well (got relegated then got sacked). Most of his experience is away from the first team though.
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He was also Tottenham Hotpsurs first team coach before going to QPR to be an assistant manager and then manager. Seems to have more experience than Adi had. Let’s give him time
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #194
Sky Blue Goblin said:
He was also Tottenham Hotpsurs first team coach before going to QPR to be an assistant manager and then manager. Seems to have more experience than Adi had. Let’s give him time
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Yeah will give him time. Just mild concerns at the moment. I’d liked to have seen someone younger with a bit more of a record but if he’s the right character we won’t know until he gets stuck in. And we all hope it’ll work.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #195
fernandopartridge said:
He's been at QPR who in his time were a premier league and then championship club and he was head coach for a bit in both leagues. Viveash had been with Chelsea's academy.

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Viveash was on the training ground coaching every day though with the players in his academy role?

From what I can see Ramsey hasn't been a hands on coach since 2015?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #196
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Viveash was on the training ground coaching every day though with the players in his academy role?

From what I can see Ramsey hasn't been a hands on coach since 2015?
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It's an assistant manager though, there are four coaches already

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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #197
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Viveash was on the training ground coaching every day though with the players in his academy role?

From what I can see Ramsey hasn't been a hands on coach since 2015?
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That’s not what this role will want to do though. We have enough coaches leading training and supporting. The assistant job will be to manage the coaches and support mark with team talks and tactics.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #198
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Would the club really make and appointment in a number 2 and not want Robins blessing? Just seems odd…
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If you wanted to be cynical then you could say it's a way of getting a new manager into the club and make any transition a bit more seamless...

However, I'm being positive and, assuming it is Ramsay, he is known as a coach, not a manager and I could see someone like that being brought in to take overall control of the coaching set-up.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #199
Ring Of Steel said:
I really dislike this gossipy drama queen bullshit.

Whoever your ‘source’ is is a scumbag, and I don’t give a toss if it’s one of the players or the tea lady. They should be got rid of. No organisation would see this constant leaking as healthy, it only makes things worse, yet you’re feeding into it & plastering every half baked theory all over here, as it makes you feel big. Some people seem to like the scandal & rumour and that’s their business- I hate it.
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I don't necessarily disagree that gossip spreading from someone within the club is unhelpful, and I certainly acknowledge that this place has become Eastenders like recently. However, you're the last person that should be calling others out and hunting for likes.

You're constantly negative and 90% of your posts are attacking other contributors. Rarely ever talking about the actual football either. Claiming the moral highground on SBT should probably be left to someone other than you if we're being completely honest.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #200
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
If you wanted to be cynical then you could say it's a way of getting a new manager into the club and make any transition a bit more seamless...

However, I'm being positive and, assuming it is Ramsay, he is known as a coach, not a manager and I could see someone like that being brought in to take overall control of the coaching set-up.
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I don’t buy this narrative of anyone actively undermining MR, it doesn’t make sense. If the powers that be no longer believe he’s fit to do the job, just sack him.

It is unfathomable that the mood would have changed so drastically so soon.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #201
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I don't necessarily disagree that gossip spreading from someone within the club is unhelpful, and I certainly acknowledge that this place has become Eastenders like recently. However, you're the last person that should be calling others out and hunting for likes.

You're constantly negative and 90% of your posts are attacking other contributors. Rarely ever talking about the actual football either. Claiming the moral highground on SBT should probably be left to someone other than you if we're being completely honest.
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As opposed to you rocking up after a few beers every night, getting lairy & making stories up
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #202
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I don’t buy this narrative of anyone actively undermining MR, it doesn’t make sense. If the powers that be no longer believe he’s fit to do the job, just sack him.

It is unfathomable that the mood would have changed so drastically so soon.
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it would make zero sense to be hiring an assistant if the assistant was going to take over, you’d just get rid of Robins abs put him in charge straight away.. and this guy’s record- while impressive in other roles- has nothing whatsoever in it to suggest he’d have any chance of doing any better than Robins
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #203
Ring Of Steel said:
As opposed to you rocking up after a few beers every night, getting lairy & making stories up
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Sure. I mean, anything to pull the attention away from your attempted whitewash of Saddle which backfired massively.

If you would have written something normal you might have received some good dialogue and agreement. Instead you went for the 'holier than thou' approach again, and you just came across as a hypocritical c**t.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #204
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Sure. I mean, anything to pull the attention away from your attempted whitewash of Saddle which backfired massively.

If you would have written something normal you night have received some good dialogue and agreement. Instead you went for the 'holier than thou' approach again, and you just came across as a hypocritical c**t.
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And on that note.. same time tomorrow I guess for your nightly pissed up rant, looking forward to seeing if you go for ‘c*nt’ or ‘cuck’ to sign off, you’ve been mixing it up recently
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #205
Ring Of Steel said:
And on that note.. same time tomorrow I guess for your nightly pissed up rant, looking forward to seeing if you go for ‘c*nt’ or ‘cuck’ to sign off, you’ve been mixing it up recently
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If I were pissed it would be a bit more colourful than either of those terms. I like to come on here late in the evening as it's mostly the only time I get away from work and socialising. I suppose neither of those things are something you can relate to.

If only I had another account I could spin up when it was all going to shit, we might be a bit more alike...
 

Sky Blue Goblin

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #206
ITKs have always been a thing as far as I can remember in football. The clubs communication at times leads a lot to be desired in regards to changes at the club. Which leads for people to try and get information out. Take Adi, not one comment on why he went just that they restructured and out. Which they don’t owe sure but will cause speculation with his history with us.

The issue is even worse when the local paper don’t really seem to get any exclusive news out the club like other papers do.

Happy to agree that team sheets don’t help (although I’m guilty of asking), but think people need to remember if people want to post what they’ve heard and that is there choice, to always have a bit of skepticism to what beens said.

At the end of the day, people are human and have their own opinions whether that’s the source or the person writing. Take Saddle, either his source or him (not having a pop) have concerns with the current ownership and a lot of what they say comes from that lens.

Take it with a pinch of salt and avoid if you want. Although on that note, CCFC fans seemingly always get the pitchforks out these days at nearly everything ( Guilty of this as well)
 
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lewys33

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #207
AANOUNCE THE FUCKING TEAM SHEET FOR LUTON AT HOME
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #208
Seen someone on Twitter posting this isn’t happening. Would be a shame but understand if there sticking with what we’ve got in the hope it starts to gel
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #209
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Seen someone on Twitter posting this isn’t happening. Would be a shame but understand if there sticking with what we’ve got in the hope it starts to gel
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Good
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #210
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Seen someone on Twitter posting this isn’t happening. Would be a shame but understand if there sticking with what we’ve got in the hope it starts to gel
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Dougie saw the pushback on here about MR not wanting the appointment, must be it
 
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