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15th Biggest Club in England* (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Apr 23, 2015
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pusbccfc

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  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #1
*On league position throughout the last 50 years.



http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9817599?


Shows everyone where our rightful place is.
 
Last edited: Apr 23, 2015

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #2
It's the * that I'm interested in.
 
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Glen

Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #3
shows the mess SISU have created
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #4
Coventry City may be in League One but rank 15th in the Ultimate League. They enjoyed sustained top-flight status between 1967/68 to 2000/01 but are now the biggest underachievers among the top 20, sitting 17th in League One, 46 places below their Ultimate League ranking.

Ouch!

Did we ever achieve 15th in the top league anyway!!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #5
Glen said:
shows the mess SISU have created
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Bastards for letting us drop out of the Premier League
 

matesx

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #6
Glen said:
shows the mess SISU have created
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yeah cheers for selling HR, getting us relegated from the Prem and leaving us £60m in debt.
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #7
NOPM
:sarcasm:
 

albatross

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #8
[h=2]"New study claims that the Sky Blues are the biggest underachievers in the Football League over the past 50 years"[/h]
the most successful at underachieving ...... Feking Great
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #9
albatross said:
"New study claims that the Sky Blues are the biggest underachievers in the Football League over the past 50 years"


the most successful at underachieving ...... Feking Great
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Bloody hell, we've finally won something and there are still people here complaining.
 

M&B Stand

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #10
Back around the time of the World Cup in Germany 2006 the englandfans club (formerly the England Members Club) had 25,000 members and a waiting list. When you applied you had to state the club side you followed. They produced a league table of teams followed, We were 18th most poplar amongst England members. I know it's not scientific, but it was a pretty decent guide to the size of clubs (or at least their followings) in the list. United were top Liverpool second.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #11
matesx said:
yeah cheers for selling HR, getting us relegated from the Prem and leaving us £60m in debt.
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Yeah those heroes took us on, financial and real estate experts with super deep pockets allegedly?
 

christonabike

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #12
At least were still bigger than Fester!
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #13
M&B Stand said:
Back around the time of the World Cup in Germany 2006 the englandfans club (formerly the England Members Club) had 25,000 members and a waiting list. When you applied you had to state the club side you followed. They produced a league table of teams followed, We were 18th most poplar amongst England members. I know it's not scientific, but it was a pretty decent guide to the size of clubs (or at least their followings) in the list. United were top Liverpool second.
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Anywhere I'd be able to find this?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #14
Nick said:
Bastards for letting us drop out of the Premier League
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Shouldn't that read Bastards for not getting us back or even giving us a top six finish in the third tier of football???
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #15
Shows where we should be.
Just need to work out how to get back.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #16
Possibly the most flawed "biggest club" study I've ever seen. We rarely finished as high as 15th when we were in the PL. If we're looking at the last 50 years how are we above Derby who won 2 division one titles and have been promoted to the PL a few times in the last 10 or so years and have a bigger fanbase than us? Odd.


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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2015
  • #17
stupot07 said:
Possibly the most flawed "biggest club" study I've ever seen. We rarely finished as high as 15th when we were in the PL. If we're looking at the last 50 years how are we above Derby who won 2 division one titles and have been promoted to the PL a few times in the last 10 or so years and have a bigger fanbase than us? Odd.


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Derby have been out the PL for about 25 seasons since 1967. We are about half that.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #18
stupot07 said:
Possibly the most flawed "biggest club" study I've ever seen. We rarely finished as high as 15th when we were in the PL. If we're looking at the last 50 years how are we above Derby who won 2 division one titles and have been promoted to the PL a few times in the last 10 or so years and have a bigger fanbase than us? Odd.


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15th isn't our average position, its our rank based on an average position of 22.2. Basically this list will just tell you who spent the most time in the premier league/top flight over the last 50 years
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #19
italiahorse said:
Shows where we should be.
Just need to work out how to get back.
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Afraid we just have the memories now, other clubs have been moving forward for the last 20 years whereas we have been going backwards. The gap is too wide to bridge.
 

Como

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  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #20
What would it have been without SISU?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #21
Como said:
What would it have been without SISU?
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Depends who.

Richardson.....oblivion.
 

matesx

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  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #22
thanks to SISU we have a club
 

Gazolba

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  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #23
Covstu said:
Did we ever achieve 15th in the top league anyway!!
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Of course we did! I think our best position was 6th or maybe 7th.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #24
matesx said:
thanks to SISU we have a club
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ah, the only show in town concept....now that really has been our undoing!
 

Astute

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  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #25
matesx said:
thanks to SISU we have a club
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Thanks to SISU we have an extra Rugger club that we can watch

Thanks to SISU we are one step from being homeless.

Are you saying that without SISU we wouldn't have a club? :thinking about:
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #26
Hobo said:
ah, the only show in town concept....now that really has been our undoing!
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SISU weren't the only show in town. I know of at least 2 other interested parties at the time KPMG were running through the administration process (it was administration in all but name). Unfortunately both of them identified that ownership of the Ricoh was crucial and walked away when it became clear CCC were not prepared to sell. We ended up with SISU as CCC effectively blocked the other interested parties.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #27
As they say you can make stats say all sorts of things. Especially when you restrict data on an arbitrary basis. It isn't really the proof of size

All largely irrelevant isn't it though. Where we are now and where we take from here is the important thing isn't it? Outwardly we are an under achieving club with potential but with few assets on the pitch and none of note off it, massive debts and loss making, and a disconnected fan base are we really 15th biggest club in the country?

Wonder what a measure of say turnover would place us, or losses, or wages or crowds etc :thinking about:
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #28
oldskyblue58 said:
As they say you can make stats say all sorts of things. Especially when you restrict data on an arbitrary basis. It isn't really the proof of size

All largely irrelevant isn't it though. Where we are now and where we take from here is the important thing isn't it? Outwardly we are an under achieving club with potential but with few assets on the pitch and none of note off it, massive debts and loss making, and a disconnected fan base are we really 15th biggest club in the country?

Wonder what a measure of say turnover would place us, or losses, or wages or crowds etc :thinking about:
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A lot of them were included in the Daily Mail one and they put us something like 50th.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #29
CCFC said:
Afraid we just have the memories now, other clubs have been moving forward for the last 20 years whereas we have been going backwards. The gap is too wide to bridge.
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Let's hope Sisu are not on a downer !!
 

WestEndAgro

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #30
matesx said:
thanks to SISU we have a club
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Barely, and it's not one I recognise FACT
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #31
chiefdave said:
SISU weren't the only show in town. I know of at least 2 other interested parties at the time KPMG were running through the administration process (it was administration in all but name). Unfortunately both of them identified that ownership of the Ricoh was crucial and walked away when it became clear CCC were not prepared to sell. We ended up with SISU as CCC effectively blocked the other interested parties.
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I don't think you understood my post did you?
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #32
oldskyblue58 said:
As they say you can make stats say all sorts of things. Especially when you restrict data on an arbitrary basis. It isn't really the proof of size

All largely irrelevant isn't it though. Where we are now and where we take from here is the important thing isn't it? Outwardly we are an under achieving club with potential but with few assets on the pitch and none of note off it, massive debts and loss making, and a disconnected fan base are we really 15th biggest club in the country?

Wonder what a measure of say turnover would place us, or losses, or wages or crowds etc :thinking about:
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Hmm indeed, personally i dont care about the history its about where we are now and the prospects of where we can move to. This is the major concern and the mountain the climb!
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #33
I love the argument about without SISU we wouldn't have a club...

In the time they have been here we could have reformed and be close to where we are now. Instead of being on the way down, we would be looking up... Look at AFC Wimbledon. It only took them 10 years to get back to the football league.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #34
pusbccfc said:
I love the argument about without SISU we wouldn't have a club...

In the time they have been here we could have reformed and be close to where we are now. Instead of being on the way down, we would be looking up... Look at AFC Wimbledon. It only took them 10 years to get back to the football league.
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That would be a different club would it not?
 
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Hugh Jarse

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  • Apr 24, 2015
  • #35
but are now the biggest underachievers among the top 20, sitting 17th in League One, 46 places below their Ultimate League ranking.
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You can't lay the blame for this on SISU (oh, how it would be great if we could), we have consistently played badly over a number of seasons to achieve this accolade, plain and simple. God forbid we drop into Division 2
 
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