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12,000 Seater stadium - Anybody happy ? (3 Viewers)

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  • Start date Nov 1, 2013
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torchomatic

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #36
I wouldn't worry about it.
shy_tall_knight said:
The concept of a 12,000 stadium she should be stated as unacceptable right from now, I doubt it will ever be built but it is inadequate, our last game at the Ricoh attracted that ie following a mid-table finish after a 10pt deduction against the mighty Orient it would have been a sell out. Also I am not sure if I will go to a new ground in Warwickshire, Brandon & Baginton - yes as it feels like Coventry, Bedworth / Solihull / Leamington - then no.

If SISU were to engage consultants and ask them where was the best place to build this stadium to maximise the number of fans they would say Coventry, a compromised stadium built because they have fallen out with the CCC is destined for failure. Don't think it will be built but equally need to let SISU know that many of us fans may not be attending if built in Bedworth.
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GaryPendrysEyes

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #37
torchomatic said:
Yes, that's what it's all about. You're spot on, exactly right.
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Well that is what you said. Very strange and bizarre, 30 miles out of Cov no good, 10 miles,out of Cov yes please. No other stated factors.
Weird.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #38
GaryPendrysEyes said:
Well that is what you said. Very strange and bizarre, 30 miles out of Cov no good, 10 miles,out of Cov yes please. No other stated factors.
Weird.
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Another town/city, or just outside of Coventry.

Huge difference.
 

torchomatic

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #39
I know, I was agreeing with you. You are spot on, exactly right. Bang on the money.

GaryPendrysEyes said:
Well that is what you said. Very strange and bizarre, 30 miles out of Cov no good, 10 miles,out of Cov yes please. No other stated factors.
Weird.
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italiahorse

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #40
hill83 said:
Another town/city, or just outside of Coventry.

Huge difference.
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Rugby ok ?
 

hill83

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #41
italiahorse said:
Rugby ok ?
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No. That's another town. Within 8 miles or not it's still another town, pretty straight forward really.
 

skybluelee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #42
hill83 said:
Another town/city, or just outside of Coventry.

Huge difference.
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What about a town/City just outside of Coventry? Nuneaton? Rugby? Would that be a 'medium' difference?
 

hill83

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #43
skybluelee said:
What about a town/City just outside of Coventry? Nuneaton? Rugby? Would that be a 'medium' difference?
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See above.

Not in another town = not in another town

And not just from our point of view either, we can't just waltz into someone else home for good.
 

GaryPendrysEyes

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #44
And that's the trouble, It can't be a green field site so would be near to some town or village... Rugby, Leamington, Atherstone, Stratford all have CV postcodes are they in or out? or a bit too far for Torchy...
 

GaryPendrysEyes

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #45
To be honest it ain't gonna fookin happen any way, we're just being lied to.
 

hill83

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #46
Not bothered about near a village to be honest. Just a town with at least a semi professional football club representing it. It would be wrong.
 

ajsccfc

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #47
Let's all get our maps out and compare willies!
 

skybluelee

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #48
hill83 said:
Not bothered about near a village to be honest. Just a town with at least a semi professional football club representing it. It would be wrong.
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But surely if it was built closer to, say Rugby or Nuneaton, than Coventry that would be wrong, as it would be encroaching on their semi-professional club?

Anywhere outside the boundary of COVENTRY is wrong.
 

hill83

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #49
ajsccfc said:
Let's all get our maps out and compare willies!
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italiahorse

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #50
hill83 said:
See above.

Not in another town = not in another town

And not just from our point of view either, we can't just waltz into someone else home for good.
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So out in the countryside then ? If it's 9 miles out say between Coventry and Rugby but not in Coventry it would be 3 miles from Rugby town centre.
 

GaryPendrysEyes

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #51
I think Torchy will have a few maps....
 

hill83

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #52
skybluelee said:
But surely if it was built closer to, say Rugby or Nuneaton, than Coventry that would be wrong, as it would be encroaching on their semi-professional club?

Anywhere outside the boundary of COVENTRY is wrong.
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Yeah, can't really argue with that. Doubt that would be the case if it was to happen anyway, which I don't believe it will.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #53
Are people just inventing these land plots to fuel the worst argument ever or is this based on some actual land development?
 

Delboycov

Active Member
  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #54
If you aspire to be tinpot you become tinpot. Heard it said repeatedly that 'historically' we've attracted this much or that much...well historically we've been shite! Slightest whiff of better times and the fans come and if we can have any kind of sustained success over a decent period which isn't as ludicrous as it sounds if SP and his exciting young team are allowed to develop then 'Arena Tinpot' with it's 12,000 capacity will not be anywhere near grand enough for the mighty CCFC! Having said that I think the only real chance that the club has of surviving and potentially thriving is to return to COVENTRY...not 8..9..10 miles outside it because for many it will no longer feel like their club anymore and they really will move on once and for all...
 

torchomatic

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #55
GaryPendrysEyes said:
To be honest it ain't gonna fookin happen any way, we're just being lied to.
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Yet you are still being hysterical over it.

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torchomatic

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #56
GaryPendrysEyes said:
And that's the trouble, It can't be a green field site so would be near to some town or village... Rugby, Leamington, Atherstone, Stratford all have CV postcodes are they in or out? or a bit too far for Torchy...
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You've done it again. You're brilliant.

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italiahorse

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #57
The point I think we are making is that no one knows where it could be, yet some are singing the praises of the new stadium. Bonkers to me or just arguing for the sake of it.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #58
hill83 said:
Yeah, can't really argue with that. Doubt that would be the case if it was to happen anyway, which I don't believe it will.
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Odd thing is that the Ricoh is on the boundary of Coventry and Nuneaton and Beduff.
 

Covstu

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #59
i would agree with most that £12k is poor planning, need a similar model to MK Dons with the ability to easily build when they knew they were going to get regular attendance. For me if it was at Brandon, i would be more than happy with that, i think Rugby etc draws the line long term though.

I think people are forgetting that if a deal for the Ricoh cannot be done by BOTH parties then we have no option but to build a new stadium and the council wont let the club build it on Coventry!! Rock and hardplace anyone???
 

torchomatic

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #60
Exactly, the community asset is hardly in the City.

fernandopartridge said:
Odd thing is that the Ricoh is on the boundary of Coventry and Nuneaton and Beduff.
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #61
ajsccfc said:
Let's all get our maps out and compare willies!
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When I was a young man about town, My willie map was purely "physical"

....Then I met the love of my life, and for a year or 2, my willie map became "human"

.....Now, married with kids, my willie map is distinctly "political".
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #62
Others are making up scare stories of a 12K stadium 9 miles from the City.

italiahorse said:
The point I think we are making is that no one knows where it could be, yet some are singing the praises of the new stadium. Bonkers to me or just arguing for the sake of it.
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hill83

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #63
italiahorse said:
The point I think we are making is that no one knows where it could be, yet some are singing the praises of the new stadium. Bonkers to me or just arguing for the sake of it.
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Well not really, because nobody knows where the imaginary ground might be. What trying to make a point people have already made has got to do with a couple of people 'singing it's praises' is beyond me.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #64
italiahorse said:
The point I think we are making is that no one knows where it could be, yet some are singing the praises of the new stadium.
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Who is and where? There's nothing to sing praises for.

italiahorse said:
Bonkers to me or just arguing for the sake of it.
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This I agree with, but mainly the 'what if it's slightly closer to Bedworth than Coventry? What if it's on an ancient Indian burial ground? Is 10.2 miles too far, what about 10.1? bizarre line of questioning about something that's not an actual thing.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #65
torchomatic said:
Others are making up scare stories of a 12K stadium 9 miles from the City.
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problem is that given timmy's track record it doesn't take alot of imagination to come up with when he mentions another teams model with a 12k capacity, 12k actualy means nearer 10k and 8 maybe 9 miles could mean 12.

no plans to whitness and no sites named only adds fuel to the fire.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #66
ajsccfc said:
Who is and where? There's nothing to sing praises for.



This I agree with, but mainly the 'what if it's slightly closer to Bedworth than Coventry? What if it's on an ancient Indian burial ground? Is 10.2 miles too far, what about 10.1? bizarre line of questioning about something that's not an actual thing.
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Exactly, all I said was the ground being in a different town/city is a huge difference to it being just outside of Coventry. And I stand by that.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #67
hill83 said:
Exactly, all I said was the ground being in a different town/city is a huge difference to it being just outside of Coventry. And I stand by that.
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....You'll only be able to stand by it IF its built surely...
 

hill83

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  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #68
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
....You'll only be able to stand by it IF its built surely...
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Nice. It's friday everyone!
 
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #69
RPHunt said:
It doesn't matter if they say it will be 5,000, 15,000 or 50,000, it will not be built. SISU don't have the money and they aren't going to find anyone stupid enough to finance it.

It's glaringly obvious, from their recent statements and machinations, that there is no substance to Plan A. The only plan is, and always has been, to get the freehold of the Ricoh.
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I'm not 100% sure on that, but I am sensing that they can't find a site close to CCFC boundary & that is why Fisher talked about 'upto 8 miles' away at the SCG when previously the talk was always of 6 miles.

However a team that far out would not really be a Coventry team, so unless they are doing a relocation as plan B I can't see how it would work & the only possible place to relocate is in effect Birmingham IMHO, I fully expect 8 miles to creep up to 9 or 10 miles. Also everyone selling land now knows they can ask a premium as CCFC are homeless.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2013
  • #70
For me, if we're closer to the border of another town than we are to the border of Coventry, it's too far.

Frankly the whole project seems unambitious and tacky to me. Been to a couple of lower league flat pack stadia this year and for me they make The Ricoh look like the new Wembley. Can't imagine players being swayed to come to a club that modelled it's stadium on Rotherham.

Really don't get why they don't start the fans consultation process now either, surely it'd give them a quick win and there's plenty they can get opinions about before a site is bought, it might even feed into their decision making on which site.
 
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