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Match Thread ⚽️ Coventry City vs Luton Town Match Thread - Saturday 11th Feb (6 Viewers)

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Tommo1993

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #106
Fadz me old China!!

Come on Super Matt!
 

stupot07

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #107
shmmeee said:
Why? Palmer wins the ball more than Allen. He’s been asked to play just off Vik but he can easily play CM.
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It's about ground covered and defensive positions and covering. Palmer might win more tackles but they are usually in the wrong areas, for example he will run like a mad man to tackle someone on the touchline, but yet when the other team have some possession, he is stood on the half way line leaving the midfield exposed. Professional football is more about denying space and covering passing lines than it is about individual tackles.

The one game we played Palmer, Hamer and sheaf as a middle 3 with 2 up top- Waghorn and Gyokeres. Hamer and sheaf were completely over run.

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no_loyalty

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #108
Great to see Fadz back. Panzo not even in squad.
 
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Skyblue54

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #109
Is somebody going to put team sheet up???
 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #110
4 4 2 you Mike Bassett mother fuckers!!

Edit - is it fuck, didn't see Eccles!
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #111
 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #112
Skyblue54 said:
Is somebody going to put team sheet up???
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TomRad85

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #113
You can argue about Allen and Palmer but with O'Hare out long term that's pretty close to our strongest team. Fingers crossed for a much needed win.

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Deleted member 9744

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #114
clint van damme said:
4 4 2 you Mike Bassett mother fuckers!!
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I don't think it is 442.

Eccles presumably at rwb.
 
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Great_Expectations

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #115
Genuinely pretty excited by that team.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #116
Having Godden and McFadzean in is such a mental boost isn't it. Let's hope it comes to something.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #117
Strange that Robins has picked Allen over our magician.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #118
Sick Boy said:
Strange that Robins has picked Allen over our magician.
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Those pictures of Robins in blackface in 1992 really paying dividends
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #119
The disappearing magician?
 

covcity4life

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #120
Never gonna see both wingbacks at same time lol

Great to see mcfad back. Would liked Palmer to start but know robins loves Allen.

Let's do this city
 

Esoterica

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #121
stupot07 said:
It's about ground covered and defensive positions and covering. Palmer might win more tackles but they are usually in the wrong areas, for example he will run like a mad man to tackle someone on the touchline, but yet when the other team have some possession, he is stood on the half way line leaving the midfield exposed. Professional football is more about denying space and covering passing lines than it is about individual tackles.

The one game we played Palmer, Hamer and sheaf as a middle 3 with 2 up top- Waghorn and Gyokeres. Hamer and sheaf were completely over run.

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You might be able to get away with it against a team that bypass midfield and play long ball, or an inferior side you'd expect to have the majority of possession against. But I'm with you, he just doesn't have the defensive awareness in his game to play CM. That's not to say he can't or won't tackle when the ball is there to be won, but there's a big difference between pressuring a man near you in possession, and having the awareness to track a runner 35 metres backwards to stop him having a free run at your own box. It's that side of his game that is missing.

And for all the good things he does in possession, does that outweight the negatives of overloading 2 of our best players in Sheaf and Hamer and neutralising their own strengths?
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #122
Reckon we'll win 2-0 today.
 

Esoterica

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #123
Wonder if that is an injury to Panzo or just Robins throwing Luton off the scent? Robins was pretty clear neither Fadz or Rose were ready yet in his interview.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #124
I had a feeling Wilson-Esbrand might start. Hope he does well.

Great to have Fadz back
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #125
Sick Boy said:
Strange that Robins has picked Allen over our magician.
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I’m disappointed palmers dropped with a player like Allen. It’s not all about running around it’s about what you do with the ball. Im be very disappointed if I was palmer.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #126
CCFC54321 said:
I’m disappointed palmers dropped with a player like Allen. It’s not all about running around it’s about what you do with the ball. Im be very disappointed if I was palmer.
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Maybe wait and see how the game plays out first
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #127
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Too cold, I'm going for my favourite knitted pair

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At least you’ll have plenty of room to sneak in your flask
 

Tommo1993

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #128
Makes me laugh. “Robins clearly has his favourites”

…so do fans, obviously.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #129
The Gyo/Godden combination hasn't really worked out so far, maybe today's the day.
 
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Dimi_Konstantflapalot

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #130
Esoterica said:
Wonder if that is an injury to Panzo or just Robins throwing Luton off the scent? Robins was pretty clear neither Fadz or Rose were ready yet in his interview.
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Would imagine he's taken a knock in training or something. Although equally Robins has always been very coy on injuries and how ready players are

Have to wonder if Kelly's played his last game for us now, not in the squad today and probably behind Eccles for a spot at CM now
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #131
Just worry you’ve got nothing to link midfield and attack there. I’m not sure when playing five defensive midfielders became necessary to not be overrun in midfield.
 
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ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #132
Great to have Godden and Fadz back in the starting 11; I just hope that Godden won’t be deployed in that strange role he had before the injury, as it ensured he was anonymous and posed very little threat in the box.

It’ll be interesting to see how Wilson-Esbrand performs at LWB, hopefully he’s got the legs for it.

2-1 win, hopefully. We need a lot of performers today. PUSB. ⚽️
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #133
shmmeee said:
Just worry you’ve got nothing to link midfield and attack there. I’m not sure when playing five defensive midfielders became necessary to not be overrun in midfield.
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That pretty much relies on Hamer doing the work of 2 or 3 players while also moving us up the pitch.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #134
CCFC54321 said:
I’m disappointed palmers dropped with a player like Allen. It’s not all about running around it’s about what you do with the ball. Im be very disappointed if I was palmer.
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I guess he’s used to it by now it happens every club he goes to
 

ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #135
shmmeee said:
Just worry you’ve got nothing to link midfield and attack there. I’m not sure when playing five defensive midfielders became necessary to not be overrun in midfield.
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Perhaps MR is going to try and use Godden as the link, like earlier in the season. Which, for me, just didn’t work effectively.
 
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Northants Sky Blue

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #136
When we hit safety/50pts would be worth taking a look at Eccles CDM and Gus in the O'Hare role
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #137
ProfessorbyGrace said:
Perhaps MR is going to try and use Godden as the link, like earlier in the season. Which, for me, just didn’t work effectively.
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Then we’re back to the problem of having one man up front who goes walkabout. I get that Robins is a very defensive manager but I’d just like to see us take the handbrake off at home from time to time. Still three points today and I won’t be moaning.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #138
Tommo1993 said:
Makes me laugh. “Robins clearly has his favourites”

…so do fans, obviously.
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the notion palmer could start in a midfield 3 and would even be considered by the management is funny

last 20 needing to push on maybe but starting a game against a team like Luton not a chance
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #139
Grendel said:
the notion palmer could start in a midfield 3 and would even be considered by the management is funny

last 20 needing to push on maybe but starting a game against a team like Luton not a chance
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So we play someone who has no impact whatsoever? Allen’s only half decent attribute is running into space when we attack and even then he fluffs his lines more often than not. He’s never pressuring his man and never wins the ball in the middle. I’d rather Eccles it Kelly in there if you desperately want five defensive players in midfield.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #140
shmmeee said:
So we play someone who has no impact whatsoever? Allen’s only half decent attribute is running into space when we attack and even then he fluffs his lines more often than not. He’s never pressuring his man and never wins the ball in the middle. I’d rather Eccles it Kelly in there if you desperately want five defensive players in midfield.
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he’s always pressing and harassing the opposition

Palmer doesn’t move enough and leaves us horribly exposed when we are defending off the ball - as I say there’s an argument to bring him on with 20 - 25 to go and let’s be honest that’s pretty much his career in a nutshell
 
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