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Match Thread ⚽️ Coventry City vs Luton Town Match Thread - Saturday 11th Feb (7 Viewers)

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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #596
stupot07 said:
Phone Robins and tell him, he's the one that picks him week in week out.

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Tbf i don't think robins actually rates him, he never selected him regularly in league 1 or the previous two seasons in the championship.

It's only O'Hare injuries and a lack of depth in that position which means he gets picked.

Hopefully King can provide some investment and I'm sure Allen will be allowed to go to a League One club.
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #597
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Tbf i don't think robins actually rates him, he never selected him regularly in league 1 or the previous two seasons in the championship.

It's only O'Hare injuries and a lack of depth in that position which means he gets picked.

Hopefully King can provide some investment and I'm sure Allen will be allowed to go to a League One club.
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Jamie allen has started 81 times in his 101 league appearances for Coventry

He's played 90 times for us in the last 3 championship campaigns
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #598
David O'Day said:
To be fair they were shite for the number of them

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Probably the worst per number away fans this season. Similar to the times Sheffield United come her. Good numbers, very little noise. Half of them were sat down, some stood up and the others segregated themselves from their own support to become closer to the home fans.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #599
Fadz is an unbelievable beast
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #600
Evo1883 said:
Jamie allen has started 81 times in his 101 league appearances for Coventry

He's played 90 times for us in the last 3 championship campaigns
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He was also left on the bench without getting on 40 times though.

So it's 81 starts out of 141 games.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #601
Evo1883 said:
Jamie allen has started 81 times in his 101 league appearances for Coventry
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He's also been an unused sub on 40 occasions

So in in 141 times selected for the match day squad, he has only started 81 times.

That is heavily skewed from this season, from his first 3 seasons he has started 52 times, in 111 match day squad selections.
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #602
PVA said:
He was also left on the bench without getting on 40 times though.

So it's 81 starts out of 141 games.
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You're including cup matches , I'm not , solely league
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #603
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
He's also been an unused sub on 40 occasions

So in in 141 times selected for the match day squad, he has only started 81 times.

That is heavily skewed from this season, from his first 3 seasons he has started 52 times, in 111 match day squad selections.
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Cup matches ? I'm talking league , our bread and butter
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #604
Evo1883 said:
You're including cup matches , I'm not , solely league
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Nope, that's purely league games.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #605
Evo1883 said:
Cup matches ? I'm talking league , our bread and butter
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Nah league only mate
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #606
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Nah league only mate
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OK, but he's played 30 this season in the championship , 38 last season in the championship and the 22 the season before ..

You said Robins never selected him much over the previous 2 seasons .. which is incorrect , he played 2/3rds of our championship matches

He was also injured a good while in our league 1 season if I remember correctly
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #607
Evo1883 said:
OK, but he's played 30 this season in the championship , 38 last season in the championship and the 22 the season before ..

You said Robins never selected him much over the previous 2 seasons .. which is incorrect

He was also injured a good while in our league 1 season if I remember correctly
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I said he never selected him regularly in league 1 or the first two seasons in the championship.


I think 52 starts in 111 match days squads represents what I said. He was a fringe player.
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #608
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
I said he never selected him regularly in league 1 or the first two seasons in the championship.


I think 52 starts in 111 match days squads represents what I said. He was a fringe player.
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"Tbf i don't think robins actually rates him, he never selected him regularly in league 1 or the previous two seasons in the championship"

These were your words
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #609
Evo1883 said:
"Tbf i don't think robins actually rates him, he never selected him regularly in league 1 or the previous two seasons in the championship"

These were your words
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Yea and i was right, it's just my opinion that robins doesn't rate him but I've given you the facts that he wasn't regularly selected.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #610
Evo1883 said:
Well yes but does anybody ever factor in the reasons why when they look at form ?

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I think the reasons why were a bigger concern than the form itself, at least for me. A threadbare squad that's relying on a couple of players to drag it through games. Compare to Luton today who have bothered to recruit for the last 3 windows and to me look like they fully deserve to be where they are.

Could have been us, and hopefully with a more professional recruitment setup it will be at some point.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #611
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Yea and i was right, it's just my opinion that robins doesn't rate him but I've given you the facts that he wasn't regularly selected.
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He had him today in the starting line up and not palmer so I guess by your logic he rates palmer less?
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #612
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Yea and i was right, it's just my opinion that robins doesn't rate him but I've given you the facts that he wasn't regularly selected.
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So Robins doesn't rate him , yet made him captain numerous times this season he's started

Last season he started 29 from 46 , played in 38

This season 29 starts from 30 matches


Btw he spent most his league 1 season out injured
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #613
PVA said:
Nope, that's purely league games.
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You really hate him don’t you?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #614
Grendel said:
He had him today in the starting line up and not palmer so I guess by your logic he rates palmer less?
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Yea, Robins knows Palmer and Allen are not good enough for this level imo. Neither would be anywhere in our first 11 if it wasn't for a season ending injury to O'hare and poor recruitment.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #615
Last season sheaf started 33 from 44 and 21 from 37 the season before , does that mean robins doesn't rate him ?

Just 54 starts from 81
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #616
Palmer is rated for not being Allen. Neither get anywhere near a top 6 starting XI.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #617
Evo1883 said:
So Robins doesn't rate him , yet made him captain numerous times this season he's started

Last season he started 29 from 46 , played in 38

This season 29 starts from 30 matches


Btw he spent most his league 1 season out injured
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I'm not sure why you keep mentioning his appearances from this season when I specifically said first two seasons in the championship.

We know he's only getting more minutes this season due to a season ending injury to O'Hare and poor recruitment
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #618
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
I'm not sure why you keep mentioning his appearances from this season when I specifically said first two seasons in the championship.

We know he's only getting more minutes this season due to a season ending injury to O'Hare and poor recruitment
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His first 2 championship seasons he made 60 appearances
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #619
Evo1883 said:
Last season sheaf started 33 from 44 and 21 from 37 the season before , does that mean robins doesn't rate him ?

Just 54 starts from 81
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o hare didn’t start some games in league 1 - not rated
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #620
Grendel said:
You really hate him don’t you?
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Not at all.

Stating facts means I hate him?

Weird.

Certainly nothing compared to your hatred of Biamou and various others you spent years slating.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #621
You can't state Robins doesn't rate a player he continuously PICKS , even when all his best players were available to him

Makes no sense
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #622
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Yea, Robins knows Palmer and Allen are not good enough for this level imo. Neither would be anywhere in our first 11 if it wasn't for a season ending injury to O'hare and poor recruitment.
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Robins has literally JUST recruited palmer
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #623
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Yea, Robins knows Palmer and Allen are not good enough for this level imo. Neither would be anywhere in our first 11 if it wasn't for a season ending injury to O'hare and poor recruitment.
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Evo1883 said:
Robins has literally JUST recruited palmer
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #624
Brighton Sky Blue said:
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OK I'm sorry what does the gif say or mean mate
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #625
Evo1883 said:
OK I'm sorry what does the gif say or mean mate
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Oops, corrected above
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #626
Evo1883 said:
Last season sheaf started 33 from 44 and 21 from 37 the season before , does that mean robins doesn't rate him ?

Just 54 starts from 81
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Sheaf was a young player who was and is still learning the game. But yes, I suspect robins rated other players more highly at that time than a 21/22 year old who had never played at that level. He's progressed well and established himself and is a much better now than when he joined us which is why he's getting more minutes

Allen is and should have been in his prime, he hasn't got any better than where he was when he joined (in my opinion) the fact he's getting more minutes now is due to injury and lack of depth in the position
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #627
Evo1883 said:
Robins has literally JUST recruited palmer
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Yes, Palmer was a punt due to our lack of resources. Robins was hoping to unlock the potential and kick start Palmers career but i suspect he is already coming to the opinion that it isn't going to work out.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #628
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Yes, Palmer was a punt due to our lack of resources. Robins was hoping to unlock the potential and kick start Palmers career but i suspect he is already coming to the opinion that it isn't going to work out.
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Huddersfield signed Rudoni for less than we'll have paid Palmer this season
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #629
Evo1883 said:
You can't state Robins doesn't rate a player he continuously PICKS , even when all his best players were available to him

Makes no sense
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He doesn't though, saying it doesn't make it true. He wasn't picked when his best players were available to him. If Godden and O'hare had been fit he would have been a fringe player like before.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #630
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Huddersfield signed Rudoni for less than we'll have paid Palmer this season
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Yea, Palmer was a poor recruitment I agree
 
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