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Match Thread ⚽️ Coventry City vs Cardiff City Match Thread - Thursday 29th Dec (1 Viewer)

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shmmeee

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #561
Sky Blue Pete said:
Rumour he was out of the starting line up and took an ankle knock yok was struggling second half

Robins needs to find his next way of working out how to play without Ohare
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Just go back to the ones we used before he was back?

What Robins needs are footballers of Championship quality as we have about ten fit at the moment it seems and a bunch not up to scratch or barely out of nappies.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #562
Waghorn is absolutely toast - surely one of the worst signings of the Robins era. Can only assume MR bought him on in case we got a penalty late again.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #563
The best chance was when Hamer seized possession and just had to play in Gyo, but overcooked the pass. Asides from that I can't really say we looked up to much.

This is going to be how it is until the ownership is resolved
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #564
The Philosopher said:
Investment might not alter the Ref situation (unless we bung him) atmosphere better than recent years but not as good as recent matches.

Spending £15k a week on a 31 year old should never happen. Think of what we could have done with the money? INVESTING in a couple of decent youngsters with potential for on-profit and a younger target man was the obvious thing to do.
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Do we know what his wages actually are?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #565
shmmeee said:
Just go back to the ones we used before he was back?

What Robins needs are footballers of Championship quality as we have about ten fit at the moment it seems and a bunch not up to scratch or barely out of nappies.
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Yep need 5 or so Bidwells early in January in a few positions to give us a chance
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #566
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The best chance was when Hamer seized possession and just had to play in Gyo, but overcooked the pass. Asides from that I can't really say we looked up to much.

This is going to be how it is until the ownership is resolved
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Allen just past post
Sheaf hit post
Palmer hit it wide
The move you referred to first half

secobd gald
Palmers shot saved
Yok should have scored the header

not much else
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #567
Sky Blue Pete said:
Allen just past post
Sheaf hit post
Palmer hit it wide
The move you referred to first half

secobd gald
Palmers shot saved
Yok should have scored the header

not much else
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Nothing clear cut is my point, and it's pretty clear why. We need more players of sufficient quality to take the pressure off the same 11 who pretty much have to play every game and be on form for us to be a threat.
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #568
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Do we know what his wages actually are?
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No.

Skybluebeliever quoted £15k week so I’ll go with that.

Search it out.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #569
Anybody else think that we should have switched Panzo with Doyle second half, Doyle just much more enterprising with the ball
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #570
The Philosopher said:
No.

Skybluebeliever quoted £15k week so I’ll go with that.

Search it out.
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To be honest even if it's 'just' £10k a week that's still a million spent on him.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #571
fernandopartridge said:
Anybody else think that we should have switched Panzo with Doyle second half, Doyle just much more enterprising with the ball
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The idea of even just lumping Panzo forward as shmmee suggested sounds less silly each time.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #572
fernandopartridge said:
Anybody else think that we should have switched Panzo with Doyle second half, Doyle just much more enterprising with the ball
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?????

no
 
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Ashdown

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #573
Waghorn !! What’s the fucking point ?
And I thought Kanes final balls in were atrocious.
Mostly positive though apart from ….that missing runner from midfield who caused so much trouble…..oh yes that’s Callum Ohare then
 

slowpoke

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #574
fernandopartridge said:
Anybody else think that we should have switched Panzo with Doyle second half, Doyle just much more enterprising with the ball
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Perhaps not today but it wouldn’t surprise me if he moves into midfield as he gets older, he is so cool on the ball and a superb passer of the ball under pressure, but a good defender too.
 

The Philosopher

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #575
Brighton Sky Blue said:
To be honest even if it's 'just' £10k a week that's still a million spent on him.
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100% agree.

If he were 27 when we signed him then I’d understand - some you win - some you lose.

31. Two year contract costing a million minimum plus sign on fee plus bonuses etc etc.

31. No resale value. Not an investment. Just a crazy signing.

I said at the time: why? What happens if Vic is out? Why waste so much on someone with no resale value?

We can all be smart with hindsight but this was just so obvious at the time.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #576
The Philosopher said:
100% agree.

If he were 27 when we signed him then I’d understand - some you win - some you lose.

31. Two year contract costing a million minimum plus sign on fee plus bonuses etc etc.

31. No resale value. Not an investment. Just a crazy signing.

I said at the time: why? What happens if Vic is out? Why waste so much on someone with no resale value?

We can all be smart with hindsight but this was just so obvious at the time.
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His signing was in the context of having just let go of Baka and Biamou, and I don't think many thought that Gyo would improve as rapidly as he did. I can still see the justification behind why it was done at the time.

I mean in the summer we'll be letting go or sending back:

Waghorn
Hilssner
DaCosta
Walker
Kelly
Rose or McF
Moore or Wilson
Kane

That's some serious cash tied up over the course of a season on players we don't want. On top of all that now we have O'Hare who won't be back up to speed until this time next year and who is at or near top of the wage bill. His contract's up in 2024-what do we do?
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #577
Brighton Sky Blue said:
His signing was in the context of having just let go of Baka and Biamou, and I don't think many thought that Gyo would improve as rapidly as he did. I can still see the justification behind why it was done at the time.

I mean in the summer we'll be letting go or sending back:

Waghorn
Hilssner
DaCosta
Walker
Kelly
Rose or McF
Moore or Wilson
Kane

That's some serious cash tied up over the course of a season on players we don't want. On top of all that now we have O'Hare who won't be back up to speed until this time next year and who is at or near top of the wage bill. His contract's up in 2024-what do we do?
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Well unless we spend money they will be replaced with like for like so still no better off and proberbly on higher wages.
Let's hope King puts his money where his mouth is, if he does take over gone a bit quiet.
 

stay_up_skyblues

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #578
Well that was like pulling teeth tonight. Flat performance, flat atmosphere and generally boring. Cardiff set up for and got their point. We really had no answer to their parked bus and desperately needed another option in AM or ST as the game wore on. Gladly never see Waghorn in a city shirt again.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #579
We played ok. Doyle and panzo were immense. Rose not far behind. Wilson alert too.

Hamer needs to make that final pass to gyok but he was good otherwise.

Dabo started poor then got better. Palmer had a good game.

We need more in final third. Feel like say this every week.

Take point and clean sheet. Move on

Pusb
 
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JAM See

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #580
Felt like there was a lack of urgency in the attack.

We looked like a team that was happy to take a point.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #581
JAM See said:
Felt like there was a lack of urgency in the attack.

We looked like a team that was happy to take a point.
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I think we were just a bit toothless and lacking ideas.
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #582
Fifth game in 19 days for most of the players and it showed, but we still dominated and kept a clean sheet again we need new bodies in and some of our walking wounded back.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #583
JAM See said:
Felt like there was a lack of urgency in the attack.

We looked like a team that was happy to take a point.
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I think it was a case of some tired legs from a squad missing some key players.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #584
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Swansea - 'Bad day at the office'
Sheffield United - 'Bad day at the office'
Cardiff - 'Bad day at the office'

They were awful and to not beat them is shocking. We need to get the wasters off the wage bill ASAP and bring in some new players.
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From the poster that brought you 'O'Hare is a burden on the team'
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #585
Sick Boy said:
Dabo wasn’t great at all and looked well off the pace - Kane did well when he came on.
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Didn't look fit from very early on to me.
He's a real asset when fit and firing so we neeed to get him back to that
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #586
clint van damme said:
From the poster that brought you 'O'Hare is a burden on the team'
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Oh right, this thing where we didn't win so therefore O'Hare is Messi and his finishing is better than Haaland.

I hope you are alright at the moment, some weird posting behaviour from you recently.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #587
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Oh right, this thing where we didn't win so therefore O'Hare is Messi and his finishing is better than Haaland.

I hope you are alright at the moment, some weird posting behaviour from you recently.
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Don't want to go all CC4L but I've been right about pretty much everything!
 
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Coundon Blue

Active Member
  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #588
Sky Blue Pete said:
What???!!’
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clint van damme said:
Don't want to go all CC4L but I've been right about pretty much everything!
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find something Boosh got wrong
 

alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #589
The season unfortunately I think will fritter out into a pretty run of the mill bottom half championship season

We’re a much poorer team without Cal and tonight showed that desperately

Unless we have (and I shan’t hold my breath) a very positive January window then I think a top half finish would be a great achievement

Such a shame cause there’s the nucleus of a very good team there and with 2/3/4 additions I think we have the potential to be a very good side
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #590
alexccfc99 said:
The season unfortunately I think will fritter out into a pretty run of the mill bottom half championship season

We’re a much poorer team without Cal and tonight showed that desperately

Unless we have (and I shan’t hold my breath) a very positive January window then I think a top half finish would be a great achievement

Such a shame cause there’s the nucleus of a very good team there and with 2/3/4 additions I think we have the potential to be a very good side
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Agree with this - unfortunately, I’d be amazed if we got investment in January. It really is a shame because with just a couple of million invested wisely we’d have real potential of making the the play-offs.
 
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coop

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  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #591
Why take sheaf off when he was having a good game (yellow card or not) should of took Palmer off.
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #592
alexccfc99 said:
The season unfortunately I think will fritter out into a pretty run of the mill bottom half championship season

We’re a much poorer team without Cal and tonight showed that desperately

Unless we have (and I shan’t hold my breath) a very positive January window then I think a top half finish would be a great achievement

Such a shame cause there’s the nucleus of a very good team there and with 2/3/4 additions I think we have the potential to be a very good side
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Agree. I thought it was rotten luck but it’s what you get when you have a threadbare thin squad and no real options outside of the starting 11 - players are overworked and you get injuries, and when you do get injuries they leave glaring holes
 
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larry_david

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #593
2 points dropped and a match, I'm afraid we have to win if we are serious about progression. Lack of depth or not, the bench js there to be utilised.

Having 3 cbs on the field the last 15 mins when Cardiff didn't even cross the half way line.

Waghorn who I think they said touched the ball 7 times in his 'cameo' of which 3 were to give the ball away. Honestly I would put Tavares on instead of him and you can laugh all you want.

Finally I'd have taken Bidwell off and put on Burroughs who can play that side and got him to inject some energy into the team. Personally think Bidwell is getting away with an easy ride here. Started the season well but last night he was pretty poor and has been for a while, certainly in an attacking sense
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #594
alexccfc99 said:
The season unfortunately I think will fritter out into a pretty run of the mill bottom half championship season

We’re a much poorer team without Cal and tonight showed that desperately

Unless we have (and I shan’t hold my breath) a very positive January window then I think a top half finish would be a great achievement

Such a shame cause there’s the nucleus of a very good team there and with 2/3/4 additions I think we have the potential to be a very good side
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Agreed, although last night (even without Cal) we just needed the rub of the green to have won that game by a couple of goals. Apart from the first 20 mins or so, Cardiff looked poor and the longer the game went on, didn't look like laying a glove on us. Thought the ref was really poor. We need some help in January and MR says we have 2 players lined up (don't k now why, but I wondered if that Norton Cuffy, on loan at Rotherham) might be one? Rotherham fans seem sure that he is being recalled by Arsenal to move to another club in The Championship. As you and others have suggested - the right 2 or 3 players, and we could be one of the best sides in the division.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #595
We don’t have a lot of luck in our side do we whether on or off the pitch ! But I don’t give up on the ones remaining yet , they have shown to be a pretty hardy bunch and Robins is a hard man to kick down PUSB

- I am staggered at the quality of the officials as yet again we were dealt a poor hand last night !
 
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