David Armstrong said:He [Armstrong] added that the [sic. Cov Tel clearly don't employ proofreaders] he saw Wasps as a real estate business “with a rugby bit stuck on”.
But despite his business success he has maintained a low profile, leading to rumours over his motives for the Ricoh takeover.
Some have suggested he is more interested in the land around the Ricoh than the stadium, but he dismissed that.
He said: "I’m not a property developer, I’ve never developed anything in my life.
"I’ve never thought of this as something I might make profit from.
In a positive sense, might make the local council more disposed to help us find some land/sort out an actually practical Butts proposal...and reduces the impact on the Ricoh of CCFC moving elsewhere
That said NW it also shows a business with a plan and a drive to push it through ............... which has coincided with improved fortunes on the pitch
Which is my point. If Wasps are a small element, why invest in something that loses money?the core business drives the site and enables investment in Wasps RFC
Yeah, man?Obviously Vern some cusys since
How many do they employ? Just looking at a document, albeit from 2011 and ccfc were thr joint 29th top employer with 500 staff, but that includes stewards. Back then there were 19 organisations that employed 1000+, 9 organisations 2000+, 5 organisations 3500+:
NHS trust 3.5k
Cov uni 4.6k
War uni 6k
University hospital 6.5k
Council 15.6k
Obviously there have been some cuts since (for eg council, etc), but do wasps really employ 6k+ people?
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I said previously, when Wasps said they were not interested in the land why didn't Sisu try and acquire it themselves. More than enough room for our academy and also could have done the retail/conference facilities too.Putting aside Wasps.
This is exactly the sort of development we want in the area.
I'm just hoping that CCFC can become part of it.
Just one question though. Surely the stadium needs car park C for cars ?
I know the 2 hotel plans still left plenty of spaces but retail would take the rest.
Putting aside Wasps.
This is exactly the sort of development we want in the area.
I'm just hoping that CCFC can become part of it.
Just one question though. Surely the stadium needs car park C for cars ?
I know the 2 hotel plans still left plenty of spaces but retail would take the rest.
This is exactly the sort of development we want in the area.
Every cloud has a silver lining.If only there were other car parks about?
About the 3rd biggest employer thing, where could they be?
Granted they might have a few hundred staff on a match day or for a concert every couple of weeks but how is that the 3rd biggest employer over places like:
Cov Uni
Warwick Uni
Cov Uni Hospital
Severn Trent
JLR
Is the Ricoh swarming with thousands of staff every day now?
Even places like Tesco will employ more people than Wasps do in Coventry.
People will already be saying how great they are, 3rd biggest employer in the city etc etc.
Because their pathetic turnover of 2 million and tiny profits means they haven't got a pot to piss in, they cant afford a window box let alone actual land.I said previously, when Wasps said they were not interested in the land why didn't Sisu try and acquire it themselves. More than enough room for our academy and also could have done the retail/conference facilities too.
Difference is though, Dave, Fisher and CCFC are in control of our team, our Sky Blues.You have to laugh, if you replaced Armstrong and Wasps with Fisher and CCFC in that statement there would be uproar.
At least it would be a statement.You have to laugh, if you replaced Armstrong and Wasps with Fisher and CCFC in that statement there would be uproar.
must admit I was surprised at the 3rd largest employer claim, as fp lists there would seem to be more with quite a few other employers. Isn't it Compass that employ the staff in any case?
That aside if this development happens then I would think it further marginalises the need for CCFC to be there to make the stadium succeed and reduces the impact on the Ricoh of CCFC moving elsewhere. Further weakening the negotiating hand SISU or any new owners have to play if they wanted to stay at the arena. It may allow Wasps to offer CCFC all the match day income (probably less a commission) but I would think CCFC get the full match day costs and a full rent if that happens
To me it makes sense for the stadium to develop other income streams that marry with all of the events etc that are going on, and to reduce the reliance on major sport (Football or Rugby)
Talk of Rugby being an add on perhaps also points to the sort of stadium sponsorship being sought - one that highlights the business rather than the sport. It also points perhaps to the impact that CCFC has or will have on that sponsorship.
I am sure there would be investors interested in developing hotels etc on the site - it would seem Indian & Chinese investors still look to the UK to invest in such projects although Brexit has had an effect
I said previously, when Wasps said they were not interested in the land why didn't Sisu try and acquire it themselves. More than enough room for our academy and also could have done the retail/conference facilities too.
I was told several years ago that SISU were offered the chance to develop car park C ...... and turned it down (which I can understand in many ways, although it could have been a way to create some wealth) ..... I have no idea of the proposal details...... but it would seem the opportunity was there and has been for years.
Putting aside the employment claims, such developments are with an aim for profit that's not wrong be it Wasps or SISU, but it means Wasps are putting down some serious roots with this and other proposed developments. There is a plan to it, there is drive to it, there is support from other decision makers, that should worry the decision makers at CCFC - how do they even begin to compete going forward. Its great CCFC have the history in Coventry - are the Coventry team- but what of the future when there appears little plan, drive, partnership, finance, or proper roots?
Front men of organisations come and go. What they say is often not quite what they mean sometimes for good reason, but do too much double talk then it is damaging and leads to an automatic assumption of falsehood.
The bigger picture could be seen that such a development of car park C ties in with the aspirations of the City as a whole to bring expanding revenue and jobs..... in which case why would it not be looked on favourably
Yep, 2012 I think it wasDidnt Richardson enquire about the ricoh and developing the land around it before he even had anything to do with wasps?
And the council rejected one of the interested parties before we ended up with SISU as they wanted to develop land around the Ricoh. Recall the council leader at the time (Mutton I think) declaring it wasn't a development opportunity.Didnt Richardson enquire about the ricoh and developing the land around it before he even had anything to do with wasps?
I always thought that was the case and the Council were keen on it because it would bring jobs, I was very surprised when Wasps refuted it. I don't see building a hotel as anything but a positive move. SISU could have done this but as I've stated time & time again my belief is that, SISU WILL NEVER BUILD ANYTHING.The bigger picture could be seen that such a development of car park C ties in with the aspirations of the City as a whole to bring expanding revenue and jobs..... in which case why would it not be looked on favourably
Sure it wasn't accidental that Haskell (a property developer) was preferred choice of CCFC owner by certain parties...I always thought that was the case and the Council were keen on it because it would bring jobs
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