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The latter, I suspect. As a small child, I was usually lifted over the turnstiles, and it wasn't uncommon in a big crowd for children to be sat round the edge of the pitch. Photographs show this at the Wolves match when a pitch invasion by these kids after we went 2-1 up threatened to abandon...

or maybe we're all just griefbots

Showing your age (like me). All together now 'Farmer for Guernsey, Farmer for Guernsey,....'

'Intensity' is what the pundits are saying that the City have. But what is it, and how did we get it? It can't just be fitness as all teams are fit. But we seem to be able to attack and defend in numbers, generally overpower the opposition and keep going. Along with most fans I would have...

Amazing how we're beginning to treat the extraordinary as ordinary. The Sunday Times today points out that this is the first time that WBA have lost after going 2 goals ahead for over 10 years.

If only we would learn not to do it in the future. Give these players time.

From today's Sunday Times 'Coventry's 34 goals is the most after 12 games in the second tier since Wolves in 1965-66 (also 34)'.

The average league position of those teams is 12th. Difficult to spot where the competition for promotion will come from.

I understand that they're turning professional, renaming as Protractor and hoping to cover all the angles. I'll get my coat.

87. Now why does that ring a bell?

From the Millwall fans forum...... From someone who obviously left early, ‘You can lose at home but getting done 3-0 twice already is unacceptable’ Praise, ‘I was fucking fuming walking out of there tonight but putting our woes aside you have to tip your hat to Coventry and Lampard as much as...

...were not spectacular but showed the spirit that's in the team. Thomas-Asante was on his toes, Eccles strained to get the ball into the danger area, and Torp produced a lung-bursting run to pick up the pieces. Great to see.

Just waiting for the 'clean sheets' joke ........

Thanks. Might go with that.

Sorry but 'Villa' can't be used in reasonably polite company

I need a new name for my Fantasy League team (superseding Robins Reliant). Any suggestions reflecting my support for the Sky Blues? Must be capable of being used in reasonably polite company.

Then linesman remembers that you can't be offside from a corner. Fans and management go wild again. Alarm clock goes off. Bugger

Can someone remind me who it is we're meant to hate if he does drop Collins?

must is a periodic condition in male elephants characterised by aggressive behaviour and accompanied by a large rise in reproductive hormones. So likely to be a problem after the match.

Well spotted! Great Minds and all that.....