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    Revenues - how much are they worth?

    ACL has a monopoly over the rights to the catering at the Ricoh - that's it's position as leaseholder of the Ricoh from ultimately the council. This is nothing to do with past agreements with the club. ACL no longer has any say over the club's revenue streams because it no longer has a contract...
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    Revenues - how much are they worth?

    Well that's business. ACL seemingly took advantage of CCFC when it was down to agree terms of £1.2m rent pa plus match day revenues leaving very little scope to survive without 20k+ crowds. As I've said before, time for a new deal.
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    Revenues - how much are they worth?

    Intangible assets don't really work like that. If you had shares in Woolworths would you still be turning up to where they usually had their AGM to cast your votes in a company that no longer exists saying you paid £x for your shares and you demand your rights?
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    Revenues - how much are they worth?

    I suspect that the catering contractor isn't exactly happy with the way the way the contract is going at the moment and would be happy to vary terms that would generate say 200k+ paying customers come into the Ricoh over the course of the football season.
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    Revenues - how much are they worth?

    The house and the land no longer exist in your scenario. The buyer and seller now have nothing. Bad deals all around. Time for a new deal.
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    Revenues - how much are they worth?

    Which is exactly why the contract between CCFC Ltd and ACL isn't worth anything and is now null and void.
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    Revenues - how much are they worth?

    CCFC Holdings Ltd as it held the player contracts and other club assets.
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    Revenues - how much are they worth?

    Yes. A t/a contract will list the company(s) that it relates to - to avoid any legal confusion. It could not bind future parties without agreement of all parties. Again, if the contract covered these eventualities why hasn't ACL gone after the other parties for the lost rent?
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    Revenues - how much are they worth?

    A football club isn't a contracting entity because a club isn't a legal person - the club's owner is. You cannot bind future owners or shareholders - you could restrict current owners from selling but that's another matter. It doesn't really matter whether you think is preposterous or not...
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    Revenues - how much are they worth?

    If there were more parties (i.e. all CCFC entities) to the contract, why didn't ACL take legal action against all the parties on the contract? My view is that ACL tried to mitigate their exposure to a (pretty economically non-viable tenant) with the GR/MM (then director) guarantees. If you...
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    Revenues - how much are they worth?

    ACL owned the rights to the match day revenues of CCFC Ltd. CCFC Ltd no longer exists. ACL rights in CCFC Ltd's match day revenues are now worthless.
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    Revenues - how much are they worth?

    The company that sold the match day rights to ACL no longer exists. ACL no longer owns the rights to the club's match day revenues because it initiated administration proceedings against the club and then rejected a CVA agreement by a court appointed administrator. If ACL wants the club's match...
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    ACL £1m profit?

    The selling off council houses isn't the problem. Not using the proceeds to build new social housing is the problem and moreover the chronic lack of house building in the past couple of decades has caused prices to rise due to a lack of supply. Selling the houses to the tenants had to be...
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    When is insolvency not insolvency

    Are you saying that so long as the football creditors are met the football authorities will be ok with the a transfer of assets and liabilities to another company? If SISU transfer football assets and liabilities to Sky Blue Sports & Leisure Ltd (which won't be party to the lease agreement) and...
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    Sisu -do the decent thing and go!!

    ACL don't have any contractual relationship with SISU therefore they cannot go after them. SISU owe ACL and the council sweet FA on a contractual basis. ACL only have a contract with CCFC and the CCFC companies have substantial net liabilities so ACL could make moves to wind up the club...
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    Sisu -do the decent thing and go!!

    I am always quite curious in this theory that SISU are only interested in the stadium and surrounding area so they can quickly sell it on. Ignoring the obvious that commercial land & property is generally in recession outside of the South East, I don't know why any party interested in acquiring...
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    Buying the Higgs Share

    If you strip out CCFC rent at the existing uncommercial rate ACL is loss making and I can't see the leasehold fixed asset now being worth anywhere near £20m. Who would pay that for it - apart from a related party transaction between ACL and one of its shareholders perhaps??? Would have thought...
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    Buying the Higgs Share

    I would have thought that the Olympics and Coldplay would have made a relatively small sum for ACL which is why they didn't generate enough cash to pay a few instalments of the Yorkshire Bank loan. LOCOG would have hired the Ricoh at a set rate and kept the ticket sales and any sponsorship to...
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    Buying the Higgs Share

    Why would anyone want to buy a loss making company such as ACL? As far as I can tell, it has no great assets apart from a leasehold over a stadium which its main tenant can't/won't pay a rent at a level to ACL to keep it afloat without support from the council. You would have thought that...
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