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TM was warning everyone to not get carried away long before we looked like slipping pointing to his previous experience with Middlesborough. Seems to me it's the standard that is unrealistic expectations of the fans is the problem not the standard the manager was setting himself. If people cared...

Was going to make the same point myself. Southend and Rochdale also haven't had 3 managers in 4 seasons i believe. Which brings you back to being settled teams again.

What you also need to remember is that not all that budget was spent on players, some was spent on Ryton, the team bus, backroom staff including setting up a scouting network that the club didn't have. It's to easy to say his budget was X and Walsall's etc. budget was V therefore we should be...

Burton are a team on the march, that happens from time to time and it's not always down to budget. Owners, managers (much to my suprise with Clough) and players have all been the right fit at the right time. Dean Smith took years to get Walsall where they are on the budget available. He was...

Who knows I gave up guessing a long time ago. Maybe Joy is a Sunderland fan? Who knows.

Again. It wasn't a point. It was a question to a point someone else made. Stop being so touchy about the mention of Joy.

Nick said we need Billionaire owners. I asked if Joy was a billionaire (in a roundabout way). Although technically Joy isn't our owner I suppose, her investors are. What are the chances of one of them being a billionaire?

Can't even win this. When will we get a break?

Don't go getting touchy. I was asking a question. That's the opposite of making a point.

A Coventry, Bristol City, Sunderland one might work. Well unless you're a Sunderland fan :)

That's brilliant Otis. Do you have any other short stories ;)

The fit has to work two ways. The owners have to be right as well as the manager. It also probably helps to get a 50% win ratio if you inherited the bulk of a team that was playing in the championship just the season before. Owners who's focus is on the team with the ambition to move up the...

60 teams so we have a better chance of getting there again? Better make that 80 teams.

But again knowing he'd be a good fit come's down to their acumen. Also Eddie Howe's acumen. Didn't he leave what would have been considered a better job at the time because he knew Bournemouth would be a "better fit" for him? And then you're back to supposition.

You mean Joy isn't a billionaire?

Badly. Again you have to point to their acumen.

That goes back to owners with the right acumen.

If Bournemouth can do it I can't see why we can't. Not with our current owners though. We need owners with the same business acumen as Bournemouth's owners and a willingness to put their hands in their pockets, again like Bournemouth's owners.

What makes you so sure Warnock would have come?

Given your posting style I hardly think you are in a position to give advice on giving advice on being an adult. NEXT! Let the judgmental from a got room to talk Mexican wave continue.