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  1. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    But again are they celebrating that by having a statue of Albert Speer outside their HQ? Does it mean that if you have sugar in your tea you’ve forfeited the right to support BLM? If you drive a car with Dunlop tyres have you lost the right to say you’re not a racist? You don’t walk around...
  2. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    Interesting argument. The original campaign against the Coulson statue in Bristol was not to have the statue removed but to have a plaque added that acknowledged his involvement in the slave trade. That campaign was won in 2018, two years later the council was still ducking it’s pledge despite...
  3. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    Only you can answer that one. If you believe that I’d be interested to hear why you believe that.
  4. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    But it’s the glorification of people involved in slavery that he feels strongly about. Are Mercedes doing that? Where’s the conflict? If he starts telling people to boycott companies that we’re built on the slave trade then fair enough but my understanding is that’s not what he’s saying.
  5. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    They’re probably an exception not the rule.
  6. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    I doubt Mercedes has statues of Albert Speer at their factories though. They can’t change their history anymore than we can, that doesn’t mean that they should pay homage to Albert Speer like we have to people like Coulson.
  7. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    You’re looking at it through a too narrow window. You have to compare schools that are almost exclusively BAME to schools that are almost exclusively white. The issue is bigger than a single classroom took in isolation.
  8. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    Although that is true it’s also a song about religion and religious songs regardless of who wrote them, what colour they are or what the back drop of the song/hymn are almost exclusively about redemption and being with god in heaven in the promised land.
  9. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    It can mean that but to say class is the problem not race is wholesale incorrect. It suggests that a white and black person of equal class, equal education, equal job etc will always be treated equally by the police for instance, the black person will never be overlooked for employment or...
  10. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    There’s been enough studies both sides of the Atlantic into the matter of race linked to class to educate yourself should you wish. Interestingly if you google race and class link as long as there’s been links to it through study the far right have used the the it’s class not race argument...
  11. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    There’s nothing wrong with mentioning the Second World War. The problem is the selective education. It was the Second World War, lesson ends. It’s the Empire aren’t we awesome, what what slavery, lesson ends nothing to de here. It’s not what we have been saying in education that’s the problem...
  12. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    Class inequality and racial inequality are intrinsically linked. It’s ignorant to the point of racism either accidental or deliberate to suggest otherwise
  13. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    You’re absolutely right about education. We did Roman history on a couple of occasions as I went through the school system including their use of slavery, even went to Lunt fort twice while at school. The Romans history is not a deep dark history in this country selectively taught in schools...
  14. skybluetony176

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    That is NW. True story.
  15. skybluetony176

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    That really hasn’t aged well, already. Countries like NZ with anxiety so bad that they shut the boarders before they even had a death, now essentially Covid free and fully open for business. Whereas Boris thought he was being clever with his superman quip meaning it’s taking us longer to get to...
  16. skybluetony176

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    It will be world beating. They’ve brought in an expert. Jacob Rees-Moggs nanny. Jobs for the boys. I joke but would anyone really be that shocked.
  17. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    Not sure what the long lasting effect is of white slavery under the Romans are. Certainly I don’t feel repressed following decades of institutional racism towards white Europeans from Italians as a leftover from the Roman Empire. Certainly no Italians going around expecting a Roman privilege.
  18. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    That would only work if all lives are on an equal footing already.
  19. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    The big danger of pinning this on the left is also that means anything that isn’t far right is left. I know plenty of people who are centre right and further who consider her a poor excuse for a human being, are genuinely scared that she’s been allowed to bring children into the world and...
  20. skybluetony176

    George Floyd

    She’s said some vile shit over the last few weeks even by her standards. I can only assume that she was daring Twitter to do it because BLM was was making the attention seeking potty mouthed narrow minded moron even less relevant. Sorry but this is a deliberate case of playing the victim.
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