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Of course the logical conclusion to the argument is we've brought in coaches that aren't as good as Lawrence and Viveash or if they are we shouldn't be too far away from seeing a return to the form of last winter. I think the reality is probably a bit more nuanced than that but if we're trying...

But it was still stupid of King. And if an owner says this is what we're getting aren't paying supporters within their right to expect it? Though, yes, the criticism shouldn't be used against the manager in my opinion.

King made a rod for Lampards back with those 'elite coach' comments. He should have kept his mouth shut. I don't agree with using them as a stick to beat Lampard with because he never said it but it was a stupid thing for King to say, (1of many).

Well it has played like one for a time before, fuck knows what's gone wrong?

He said it in November, ST sales were done.

I agree, and I see the point you're making, but I don't think comparing this season to 2017 is an accurate comparison.

So why did King say it was?

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Bizarre take

Why do you think he said it?

It was a quote from King, should have put it in quotation marks! But youre probably right, we have numbers, just not the balance.

Don't know how you can exonerate Thomas of any culpability for their goal? He should havecheld the man up rather than swing out a leg and let the man skip round him, really poor. The main culprit was Eccles mind but we still should have prevented the goal even after his error.

The comms said so but it looks like they may be wrong. Hopefully they're not because it makes me feel a hit better about it knowing it wouldn't have counted.

Just to be clear about the Asante chance, either him or Simms were off weren't they so it wouldnt of counted. Not that he knew that and still should gave buried it.

We don't need another midfielder!

He wasn't denied a move, he turned down the only team to make a solid offer because he thought he'd get better. He didn't, and I can only assume he's pissed off about it, but that's just my guess.

But they had a very good spell last season, which is why this all doesn't add up to me. This isn't a slight drop off, they've gone to absolute dogshit. Maybe Brighton is right that they lack on pitch leadership to galvanise them?

Well like most people I've been banging on about this for ages. I hope this is the root cause, because this is the easiest fix of the lot really.

See this is another conundrum, I agree they're spineless, yet they've shown enough bollocks to turn games around under all 3 managers this season, so there's evidence there for anyone trying to refute it. For me there's a real mystery around why this group are so shit because they've shown...

So, for 3 months last season we were playing great, in play off form, and had a cup run which produced 2 cracking performances. Then Lawrence left, the wheels started to come off and then Viveash left. Poor form continues in to this season, Robins replaced by Lampard and some high level...