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Guys, development + origins of football, rugby (and swimming/bathing, tennis, cricket and athletics) from pre-industrial Britain to today, was part of the P.E course last year, and from both what you've said, it's true, and hasn't deviated from what I've said. Football and Rugby Football...

Nope, both sports, go back to to Rugby Football and mob games in pre-industrial Britain. Founders of the FA (1863) ex-students from Rugby School who wanted to outlaw using hands in the game. There were other adaptations to these games from other public schools.

So one isolated incident, over 30 years ago, justifies hordes of players in the refs face? Besides, the incident you refer to was by the captain (?) an dealt in a polite manner, in rugby, the ref talks to 2 people on the pitch, both captains (not literally) and it's done in a civilised...

Actually, it wasn't. Rugby Football was made at Rugby School, then, Association Football split from 'Rugby Football' because of use of hands.

95% of the time, football players don't just 'question' the ref, there're 5-6 players in his face sometimes shouting and it's blatantly disrespectful. Also, no referee ever, in any sport that doesn't have 'appeal systems' has changed his/her mind because players have questioned their judgement...

Please, Union > League 100%. League is still decent to watch though and have some real tough guys playing.

So are you admitting I didn't present misinformation?

Oh, you mean this? http://twohundredpercent.net/?p=23866 Draw your attention to page 4/10 then I'll expect an apology.

How so? Did ACL appoint the manager and sign the players? Or did that 500k (+500k grant from FA) not happen?

So who's responsible for the team and manager now? They invested in the youth setup, which is paying off massively when certain people involved with the club no longer with us wanted to close down the academy...

It's a paradox isn't it? One hand you have people who, back when the process of selecting a preferred bidder, were happy at the prospect of ACL being selected as it would 'unite club and stadium', but a large % of those would be vehemently opposed to SISU owning even a share in ACL/RICOH.

Firstly, I want to say fair play to Daniels and Wilson, both have been a revaluation, Daniels was written off by many, I was close to, certainly had nowhere near the faith SP had. As for Wilson, I owe him an apology, totally wrote him off and he has been amazing, but the success of both of these...

Say what??

I'll take that as a compliment.

Well, I liked what it stood for... Just in some areas there were too many and made the place look messy... A lot more satisfying walking/driving past somewhere and seeing a few, looked better.

Well I miss those days...

I think it's fair to say that SISU had the legal system in their favour, even if the FL wanted to do something about it. Even if Guilfoyle was administrator, I could only see Otium taking legal action v whoever, as their bid fitted the criteria what the administrator has to look for. Guilfoyle's...

A lot of things. Work, rugby, alcohol, Breaking Bad (I highly recommend!) mainly. I've been keeping track on twitter and newsnow but I've been detached from football this summer. I'm yet to go to a game, home or away, but Port Vale (A) is my first free Saturday so I'll probably go to that...

I'm guessing the CCC, especially if the ribbons have been removed all around the city. Maybe SISU plants in the Council!? Not going to lie, they were an eye-sore.

Well, ACL tabled a generous, but flawed, (I myself would've rejected it) offer to SISU to stay at the RICOH... And ACL, rightly or wrongly, were going to reject the CVA if the rent agreement wasn't agreed. That's how it seemed to me.