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just close this thread ... one should be enough.

Oh, surely they are not thinking of Hoffman and Elliott?

You haven't missed anything of notice. It's been quiet here so nothing to report.

Will this all surface during the liquidators investigations, or does it require a special investigation?

I don't know ... it's very complicated. If the golden share was actually given to holdings, then moving the players to holdings could be seen as an attempt to comply with FL regulations?

The latest point reduction was due to ACL not signing the CVA. But it is interesting we got off with only minus 10 and not minus 15 as seem to be the going rate. That could be FL indirectly admitting their mistake.

Yes FL are admitting mistakes, but they have not said player contracts had been transferred! So maybe sisu/TF actually never did transfer or move assets from limited to Holdings. Maybe only new players were registered in Holdings? I think I remember there were a tiny sum listed in limited as...

Welcome to my world. Prepare to be labelled sisu-apologist.

Someone wrote this back in May:

Wasn't he appointed by the court?

Didn't ACL reject the CVA to ensure a thorough investigation into this matter?

Another thing I have forgotten all about: At some point before the club entered into administration ACL got the courts permission to claim the money in ccfcL's bank account at a given date. What happened? Did ACL actually get any money then or were the account empty?

Cheers!

I have completely forgotten about Les Reid and his quest to get his hands on the ccc replies. Are you on Twitter? Maybe you ... or someone using Twitter ... could ask him if ever he received a copy?

Well, according to sisu/fisher(!) it was all part of a joint plan with the ccc todistress the ACL mortgage at Yorkshire Bank. This way sisu could buy the mortgage at a very low price (£5-£8m) and discharge it as part of the deal to buy the Higgs shares.

Actually they were all genuine questions and never intended to be anything but exactly genuine questions: This one wasn't answered. It's important if this was ever stated by sisu or if it's a myth created by a stakeholder with a different agenda. You wiped that off as being a 'second offer'...

Yes, and at that point two things had happened: 1) The ACL chairman had become director at Yorkshire Bank 2) Hoffman and Elliott were back in town and very loudly promoting an potential investor (no, not PH4 - the chinese). But of course ... that's all just coincidences!

... as long as it's not a profit made by ccfc.

Have there ever been a statement from sisu/ccfc that they want the freehold? Or is it words from another stakeholder? Or leaked info from behind scene negotiations? Wouldn't they be satisfied with 100% ownership of ACL and a 125 year lease? About the charges over assets ... you make it sound...

Yes it matters and yes we are all entitled to our own choices. But if the financial starvation will continue beyond the club coming home to the Ricoh, why would the owners even consider that scenario?