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  1. clint van damme

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    she didn't want Parliament by passed. I though part of Brexit was about the upholding of British law? What do you mean, get behind Brexit? Why would you get behind it if you think it's going to fail? Why don't you go onto the football forum and post that we should all get behind playing two...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    no one is arguing whether they've done deals or not, it's the terms of the deals. Do you think a free trade deal where it won't actually be free trade for 15 years is the sort of deal we should be looking for? I'm not saying it isn't, I honestly wouldn't know but it doesn't appear to be...
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    The Gigs Thread

    went to see Public Service Broadcasting at the Arts Centre on Friday. Lot of work going on up there, it was like watching a gig on a building site!
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    the article I read is a PDF from the CBI which it appears is now corrupted! I found this and it looks to be more accurate: Alternatives - CBI The original document said the Swiss wouldn't have access to free trade in Chian for 15 years but this one states that tariffs will reduce incrementally...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    See this is one thing that confuses me and I've looked into it but still don't understand it. If you go under WTO tariff arrangements don't you also have to agree new trading standards, (there's things called technical barriers to trade and conformity agreements), and if that can't be done then...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    you might want to look at the conditions of that deal. Don't the Swiss have to wait years to have tariff free access to Chinese markets? edit - the CBI website says the Swiss have to wait 15 years to have access to the Chinese markets but I don't think that's correct. However, as China is the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    well that's what Liam Fox said, he claimed we would sign 40 free trade deals at 1 minute after midnight on March 29th 2019. I'm sceptical to be honest and the lukewarm response from the US and India doesn't inspire me with confidence. To be fair to Fox I'd rather someone went into negotiations...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    we were told that in principle deals would be agreed with countries around the world, it hasn't happened. "they could be done on the back of an envelope", according to Boris. The attitude of the EU is irrelevant to signing in principle deals with other countries. Their actions will affect the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    the trouble is that we have MPs with precisely your attitude. They have an over inflated sense of their own ability. We were told that free trade deals would be agreed in principal within weeks of article 50 being triggered. That hadn't happened and that's nothing to do with the EU or their...
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    Match Thread Luton Town - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 28th Oct

    keep it as it is. Makes sense away against the free scoring league leaders. After this, get it changed!!
  11. clint van damme

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    this is just the sort of stupid rhetoric that will send us right over the cliff. We need sensible well thought out strategies going forward, not chest thumping jingoism.
  12. clint van damme

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    we obviously interpret the evidence differently. If you look further back in the thread I said I thought that little would change after Brexit and we would wonder why we bothered. I actually have a much more pessimistic view now. I may be wrong I accept that and hope I am.
  13. clint van damme

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    can't believe I agree with hague but I think he's right. We need to honour the vote and deal with brexit which itself will be a disaster but not of the same magnitude!
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    Gun powder

    bit of a bugbear of mine that. Some people just love to work themselves into a state of faux outrage. Like you said, they were warned!
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    Would you pay more ?

    I agree with the jist of your post, use a patient approach when the opposition is down to 10 men but like everything else it didn't work. To be fair, the idea of stroking it around is to get the opposition chasing the ball and tire them out, when they've only got 10 or so minutes to go that's...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    but it's part of the general tone, I posted some valid criticism, (which may not have stood up to scrutiny if anyone had bothered rather than the oh it's the Guardian bullshit even though there were other sources), and it turns into a load of bollocks about the left, and hating public schools...
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    Would you pay more ?

    yeah, it worked a treat.
  18. clint van damme

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Fantastic post ;)
  19. clint van damme

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    it doesn't upset me. I don't think it was a fantastic post, it was a rant. Tell me how in his post contributed to a debate relating to points I'd raised about Liam Fox?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    it's really not. What I posted were nothing to do with the radical left or Emily Thornberry, they were valid criticisms of Liam Fox. He may end up doing a fantastic job but he's dropped the ball with a couple of things and I've highlighted them on a thread related to Brexit. If you think...
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