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And that's my whole point. There is a lot of ambiguity but we shouldn't just dismiss something because we don't think it's racist. The majority of us haven't lived the experience so we shouldn't judge those that have. If we draw a clear line there will be snidey fuckers who always push the...

I've got a feeling they may wait until the deadline for refunds has passed before putting STs on sale. Think refunds end on the 5th, (except cash).

didn't wasps say that talks breaking down was nothing to do with indemnity?

His manager is Jewish. I think reading between the lines they've had a fall out and he's decided every Jewish person is to blame. He's a fucking cretin. Someone close to him needs to get hold of him and sort him out for his own sake if nothing else.

She was certainly an attractive lady! Saw Adam and the Ants at a festival a few years ago. Afternoon slot, sun was shining- it was great!

Glad it went well Derby. Wishing you a speedy recovery.

that's an interesting list, some unexpected selections, thinking particularly Transvision vamp and Adam and the ants.

I think it would be considered so by a lot of people You're of course comparing to the treatment of, I think Sarah Ferguson. Though you can treat someone poorly without being racist and treat someone poorly with a racist angle. You do realise I'm not arguing that the water bufallo comparison...

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Who is saying it should considered racist if a black person says it is I havent. But And what is your and nicks obsession with the milky bar kid?

My lawn was fucked a few years ago due to been used as a builders yard when I did my extension. I rotorvated it, levelled it out (ish), and turfed it

You've asked I've relied probably 5 times

Again, context. Are you saying comparing a black man to a large black animal can't be a racist slur?

I'm not arguing water bufallo is racist. I'm arguing that white men who've never experienced racism shouldn't be telling Akinfenwa that he's wrong to take offence. He may have got it wrong, no one will know.

Been there. No. Though if a black.person said all white people are gammons then possibly. Same as calling a black person a roadman isn't but saying all black men are road men.probably is.

No. But there's a burden of proof to.prove it's a racist attack. That would be strong evidence. In the absence of racist language it would be difficult to prove unless the perpetrator had a racist or far right back ground.

Of course someone can say coco pops is racist but I don't think it would be taken seriously would it? And it wouldn't be decided by one person would it. Silly example so.its not dangerous ground because the example is nonsense. Same as your fight example, if you use derogatory racist slurs and...

We'll someone has to decide don't they? If it's some of the posters on here nothing would be off limits!

No. They look into it and they have to find compelling evidence. They don't just take one person's word over another. I've been involved in 2 cases at work (as witness), neither was black v white but same principal. Both got thrown.out. one correctly one incorrectly in my opinion.

You and to go into some black communities Nick and educate them. I'm sure they'd welcome your expertise on the subject seen as they've been getting it all wrong.