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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    FOM is one of the greatest post war achievements in Europe. Most humans appreciate freedom to go where they want. It is not possible in the whole world, but in 28 countries it is. An amazing situation. Losing it and recreating borders creates supply problems, delays and costs. Apart from the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Is the plan to lock people up finalised? The SPD won’t wear that. Discussions are still ongoing in Germany and the period of 4 weeks was mentioned. There is still a long way to go.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Any news on the acceptable solution?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Everyone wants freedom of movement. For themselves.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What was Arlene Foster‘s 11th hour intervention all about then?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Why did Davis the try and deny that had signed up to a backstop sea border? Why is May trying to get the cabinet agree to collect duties for the EU as an alternative to a sea border? The factual evidence is that Arlene Foster said no way and May is looking for an alternative. They signed up to a...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What are you on about? What economic migrants are those? Most come to work from the EU, or are pensioners from places like the U.K.. If a pensioner from Romania comes he has to have an income or he could be deported after 3 months. Same with the UK pensioners in Spain, they cannot claim a...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The FOM is reciprocal and we live in Europe so can take advantage of it if we wish. ‘They” have to get into Schengen first. Then “they” can travel freely, but are supposed to be staying where they are registered. As they are not locked up, it is difficult to have complete control. Open borders...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Wrong as usual. You have 3 months to be self sufficient in EU countries as an EU citizen. If not you can be deported. Not everyone can work as a fruit picker and what happens after the season? A 70 year old refugee from Aleppo would be no help under your idea. What would his children and grand...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It is not where the refugees land though... it is where they are first registered. Seehofer wants to turn back refugees registered elsewhere when they arrive in Germany. That is not the majority.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Just read what the DUP have said on the subject. Arlene Foster made it very clear that they would never accept a sea border. That’s it end of story. Why do I need to see what the government said? The tail has spoken and the dog is trying to find a way round a hard border without having a sea border.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Hope not. It would set us back years and would cost a fortune to control.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Perhaps the lack of non EU immigration in Germany plays a part? In 2015 39% of net immigration in Germany was EU citizens. So, I don’t know why. Maybe the language? Perhaps the pro business employment laws in Britain. You would know more than I do. There are certainly no borders stopping EU...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    For a start they got their blackmail money via government investment in Northern Ireland to get their support in a support agreement. I said tail wagging the dog, in this case on the Northern Ireland border issue, and in Germany the CSU is wagging the dog on the Southern German border issue.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Detention centres? Well if there are to be no open borders and they are not going to go back, then what else can you do with refugees? I await your solution. Merkel tried to help them by allowing uncontrolled immigration at her borders. The usual suspects fanned the flames of racism. The right...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well that means Brexit Britain as well and the people bombing and killing in the ME, Afghanistan and Libya. A lot of guilty parties there. Glad you realise that it is not 2 people who are responsible for everything that is bad in these countries. Yes, I agree that all wars are bad. All refugees...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. They said they prefer a shared burden. Germany and France have taken hundreds of thousands of refugees. And no one landed by parachute in Germany. Any numbers of Britain‘s humanitarian acceptance?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, the Irish border proposal of a sea border.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Merkel always said the refugees were welcome and should be shared with other EU countries. It didn’t happen ( strange as you claim the EU is run by Merkel ), so she has been weakened and has little option but to take what she can out of it. Which she is doing. 14 countries have agreed to take...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Merkel nannte die Einigung der 28 Staats- und Regierungschefs eine "gute Botschaft". Es warte zwar noch eine Menge Arbeit am gemeinsamen europäischen Asylsystem. "Aber ich bin optimistisch nach dem heutigen Tag, dass wir wirklich weiter arbeiten können", sagte die CDU-Chefin. 28 States agreed...
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