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  1. chiefdave

    Mediation talks underway

    Councillors should be held to a high standard. Certainly a higher standard than a hedge fund. They are there to serve the public and should be answerable to them.
  2. chiefdave

    Mediation talks underway

    Is it Chelsea where the trust owns the pitch so the ground can never be sold without their approval. Council could have done something like that.
  3. chiefdave

    Mediation talks underway

    There's as many things you can level at the council. Such as them stitching up the club by buying the land off the clubs agents and flipping it to Tesco, in a deal negotiated by the club, in 24 hours; going back on their promise that the club would have 50% of the freehold; refusing to engage...
  4. chiefdave

    Academy ground share

    Which includes rugby facilities. Only swimming pool I've ever known to need rugby facilities.
  5. chiefdave

    Another Gilbert tease.

    Problem is if they hit any problems and have trouble refinancing they're screwed. Its easy to assume things will always be as they are now, we did that and look at the mess it got us in. What happens if the economy goes tits up, TV rights are less than expected, they can't get a sponsor etc...
  6. chiefdave

    Another Gilbert tease.

    If these valuations are so water tight how come Wasps got into so much trouble before borrowing against a stadium valuation that proved to be massively inflated?
  7. chiefdave

    Academy ground share

    Nope, Woodlands was closing and Maton suggested CCFC buy it and maintain it as a public facility / academy but it then turned out it doesn't fit in with the city plan. This is Finham Park.
  8. chiefdave

    "Everything is Negative"

    He wants us to lose at Wembley :o
  9. chiefdave

    Fan ownership, why won't it work?

    Pompey fans not seeming so keen on fan ownership at the moment!
  10. chiefdave

    Another Gilbert tease.

    Do you believe a company whose major asset is worth £43.5m being sold for less than £7m represents good value for the taxpayer. How about a 200 year extension for £1m? Its not like Wasps have form for getting themselves in trouble by overvaluing an asset and then borrowing money against it. Oh...
  11. chiefdave

    Mediation talks underway

    Its a dangerous road to go down. While we may all feel SISU are wasting everyone's time who gets to decide who is and isn't allowed to use due legal process to examine the actions of public bodies?
  12. chiefdave

    "Everything is Negative"

    Well he's identifying the issues, now can he solve them?
  13. chiefdave

    Mediation talks underway

    Exactly. If you're the FL you could have Wasps refusing to talk to CCFC and CCC blocking any attempt by the club to move and failing to respond to the clubs request for help. That makes a solid argument if Fisher turns up and says we want to move out of the city. On the other hand you could...
  14. chiefdave

    Another Gilbert tease.

    Its something odd like the extension falls away and they're back on the original lease.
  15. chiefdave

    Another Gilbert tease.

    A point that often missed. They still have some way to go to meet their bond commitments but we are constantly told the Ricoh is performing far better than it ever has before so how much headroom is there for further improvement? The building of the training centre has been delayed, the order...
  16. chiefdave

    Mediation talks underway

    There was the former Dunlop site Maton mentioned. It was with his if we illegally refused planning permission SISU could appeal and it would be overturned piece in the CT. A few days later it turned out the land was allocated for housing and couldn't be used for a stadium.
  17. chiefdave

    Mediation talks underway

    No. at no point have I suggested that. You've totally missed the point. It doesn't matter what me or you think it matters what people like the FL think. Lets look at it from their perspective. CCFC's landlords are currently refusing to talk to them. CCFC propose a move to a groundshare at the...
  18. chiefdave

    Mediation talks underway

    No he hasn't, he's said he won't work with SISU, no mention of Otium. Could be interpreted as very careful selected phrasing. Don't really see the problem. Will take the council literally minutes to fire out a press release saying they're happy to work with the club and for them to get plans...
  19. chiefdave

    Mediation talks underway

    Even better for the council. All CCC have to do is say they're all for the stadium at the Butts and tell Fisher to get the plans in ASAP. Sharp tells Fisher to do one, he's not interested. If they did that it would at least give the appearance of them being supportive of the club. If they don't...
  20. chiefdave

    Sunderland forum (again)

    I find this really strange. The simple fact is their fate was in their own hands going into the final game and they messed it up. If they had won nothing else comes in to it. Of course it was wrong but to hold a grudge 40 years later and celebrate Jimmy's death and hope we go out of business is...
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