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Everybody should simply do what they think is right.

The important thing here is isolating the lease from the trade of the club. Where companies set up separate companies regarding property holdings, you'd expect a lessor to take out a cross guarantee from the holding and/or trading company.

To be fair to Bellamy, when he played for Cardiff at the Ricoh he behaved pretty well - unlike Jay Bothroyd.....

I think you're missing the point. Ltd was the trading company per its accounts. If the Board made a decision to transfer that trade to Holdings (whether by a single transfer, or gradually as new players came in), that fact should surely have been disclosed in the accounts. I say again, what...

The point is that if this was a "sensible plan" by the Board to "clean up the mess created by previous boards" and that this involved "gradually" moving the players (and hence the trade - golden share and all that) out of Ltd - how could this possibly go unmentioned in the accounts of Ltd? How...

Then when TF signed off the last set of CCFC Ltd accounts (I think in June 2012) why was no mention made of the transfer of trade to Holdings. About as fundamental as it gets....

It was at the Dell sometime in the mid to late 60's. I can't remember a thing about the game but my Dad assures me that I was there. There are plenty of other games over the years that I'd have preferred to forget......

Many thanks for the helpful definition. Perhaps I should have been a little more specific and explained that my query (which was a genuine one) was around the context that the phrase was used in. I had thought that your whole forum persona was about fighting against what you perceived to...

Sounds like the sort of sale SISU would make :)

My reading of the situation is that the advantage of purchasing via administration would have been that the buyer would not have to deal with SISU as, rightly or wrongly, a number of parties seem to have trust issues in dealing with them. As a matter of interest, what price would you consider...

SISU got a lot of stick when they bought CCFC because they didn't pay anything for the shares. I supported them over that issue, because at the time the value of the club was effectively £0 and so it seemed pretty logical that the price of the shares should reflect this. The problem is that -...

I'm not trying to be sarcastic or pick a fight, but what does "is more comfortable with the masses" mean?

The best thing yesterday was the news that talks have started on taking the academy back to the Higgs. Whilst it would only be putting right their own mistake, I would give SISU some credit for seeing sense, if a deal is completed.

And that is because.....?

Only deadline day I remember I was involved in selling a business to Jack Walker (of Blackburn fame) and the guy I was dealing with was the guy who handled his football deals. So as we finished up, I asked "any deals for Blackburn today?", he said no and I set off home. Got home to find that...

Bugger, just glanced at your post - I thought that NSTAMAIWGTSB was our new centre half. :facepalm:

I'd be very grateful :)

Just to freshen things up, couldn't we have: I take it none of you will be going to Anfield when we draw them in the FA Cup? or even I take it none of you will be going to Stamford Bridge when we draw them in the FA Cup? It'd just make it a bit less repetitive.

I know that you're making an entirely different point, but given our current plight it just looks odd to be talking about our "home" gates as "only averaging 17.2k".

I'm tempted to say "Breaking news" - though I'll avoid the capital letters and irritating overuse of exclamation marks. I'll settle for correcting your maths and pointing out that it's actually 100p more than NOPM.