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Something doesn't add up though. There's official stats available on the gov.uk website for football related arrests and banning orders Our numbers are nowhere near the top of the list. Last seasons data shows 25 arrests and 11 banning orders. Basically one arrest per game.

You're more confident than me that if we wait a few more years the SAG will suddenly see sense and do their job properly. Not like this is the first time we've had issues, been going on for years.

if that's the case and despite all the evidence put in front of them they refuse to allow us to operate the same way as every other club then someone needs to have a word with the local media few articles highlighting how useless they are might embarrass them into action

They'll probably say they can't do it because someone has put a massive fence up in the car park which makes access difficult 🤡 This is where a lot of the frustration comes from I think. We know it can be done so having the SAG / club just say it's not possible with no more detail given isn't...

100% this. We see the figures for arrests etc and we're far from the worst club so why do we have to deal with this You can only draw one of two conclusions. Either the relevant authorities are incapable of doing their job properly and identifying, ejecting / arresting and banning the relevant...

If I was someone involved in the policing of games, ie the police and the SAG, I'd be thoroughly embarrassed to constantly be putting out statements like this. You may as well just say you're totally incompetent and can't cope with a small away following which is a matter of routine at every...

How the fuck can it be sold out when the club say they are expecting 25K. This stuff really needs sorting out, its embarrassing God nows how many ticket sales we lose when people look, see no tickets available, and don't keep checking to see if they're being drip fed out

Is this the same every game or another weird decision for tonight to put people off coming?

What incidents? It's so frustrating how we seem to be the only club in the country that seem to have to deal with this constant shit from the SAG. They need to be called out on it more and made to justify their decisions as at the moment, given there's no less trouble at our games than...

turns out its just cameras, nowhere near as advanced as I thought it was

I'm going to guess the sensors are in the posts for the goal line tech but couldn't they have something like Hawkeye that they use at the tennis?

Think a lot of these problems, including things like issues upgrading a ticket, are down to the way the ticketmaster system works rather than anything the club are doing and we aren't really a big enough client for Ticketmaster to pay the slightest bit of attention if we want things like that...

Wonder if we went through this with phones. Today people would think you'd lost the plot if you said you didn't know how to make a phone call. Can't be that far off looking at people who can't do the basics online the same way.

I'm not great with cars past the basics but DIY is a real no go for me, even the most basic things. Get the same as you, everyone is 'that's easy, just look on YouTube' but I've now reached the point where I know its a lot less stress and cheaper overall to get someone in to do it right first...

Last.fm used to be great for recommendations but I can't get it to work at all since I've moved from iTunes to Apple Music No idea how that hasn't either be bought by Apple or them being able to implement similar functionality. It seems like such a basic feature to have on a music streaming service

Don't think anyone is saying there shouldn't be an option for those who genuinely can't buy a ticket any other way, maybe with he caveat that they shouldn't be expecting to be able to walk into the club store at any point and be served immediately. The issue is more around making sure the...

Do places have ticket offices these days that are open at times when there's not an event on? Just thinking of some local ones, NEC and NIA don't, nor do either the O2 Academy or Institute. It's increasingly rare these days. I suspect the only reason we still have one is because we have a...

Pretty sure the old system was just running off a PC sat in the ticket office :ROFLMAO: You'd hope that wasn't the case if they decided to have a new system

While we're talking about personalised product recommendations why is Apple so bad at this? How hard can it be to have a decent recommendation service for music, tv, books etc given I'm 100% locked into the Apple eco system and they know exactly what I'm consuming.

I think a lot of people have forgotten how often the system pre-ticketmaster used to completely collapse. Its obv possible but does the cost of developing an in house system bring any return for the club? The most obvious options to change to are AXS or, for a more local option, Ticket Factory...