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An extended debate on Poland’s welfare spending-to-GDP ratio is exactly what this thread should be about, keep it up.

This board has been on tenterhooks waiting for a breakthrough on July’s ceasefire agreement between Thailand and Cambodia - great stuff, no wonder Trump’s detractors have been quiet.

The OECD has a dataset of average wages converted into dollars and adjusted for PPP which puts the UK a smidge above the OECD average, still comfortably behind many Western European/Scandinavian/North American countries. https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/average-annual-wages.html

Fictionalised versions of histories are literally as old as time, it’s frankly bizarre that people are pretending that TV dramas or adverts have any obligation other than to entertain us and sell things to us.

Yes!

Fun fact, Block 9 is also the name of the area of Glastonbury dedicated to techno and the festival’s biggest gay bar.

Martin O’Neill?! That’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time etc etc

I don’t know, it feels like racial identity is a slightly more pertinent detail to the stories of Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela than for the other people you mentioned.

There weren’t any soldiers speaking modern English at the Battle of Hastings either. Adverts and TV dramas do what they need to do in order to be most compelling to their intended audience. I’m not sure how or why “social programming” would come into it.

Pretty grim to be charging £45 for Championship football at Christmas imo.

It’s 10% of GDP and a quarter of all government spending! Where?

He hasn’t asked me anything about it

So you don’t think he’s suggesting there’s a choice to be made between the two? In the preceding sentence he said that mass immigration and a comprehensive welfare state are “contradictory” priorities!

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Canada has a higher immigration population% and higher average annual incomes than the UK, as well as a comprehensive welfare state. Norway’s the same. You were seeming to suggest this was impossible? You’re desperate to frame our country’s problems as a binary choice between mass immigration...

“We’re not starving the patient, we gave him a piece of toast only yesterday!”

This is ridiculously disingenuous of you

Canada? Sweden? Norway?

What is "alarming" to you about having fewer white people in the UK?