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A double whammy, you say? I guess there isn’t such a big difference between welfare payments and public services after all. So this brings me back to my original question - why are children (who pay no tax and consume years worth of public services) exempted from your “unproductive” bracket of...

Whether or not you believe it’s successful in its implementation, isn’t this what the (also taxpayer-funded) welfare system is set up for?

So if I pay no tax but consume vast amounts of free public services, am I considered a productive member of society so long as I don’t also claim any welfare benefits?

So the 12 years of state-provided education that I received as a child at zero personal expense to myself doesn’t count as a state handout….because it comes out of the education budget? What are you even talking about at this point?

Children don’t get state handouts? I don’t recall getting a monthly invoice for my primary school education when I was 6, but ok. If the UAE is your model for what a functioning society (and welfare state, and attitude to migration) should look like then that says it all.

A child, an elderly person or a disabled person is also a net tax drain - why are they exempted from this workhouse community service you’re envisaging? If the argument is that they will pay tax in the future, or have paid tax in the past, why does the same exemption not apply to the vast...

I think it’s nonsense to make the blanket statement that people on UC or immigrants on <£35k a year are somehow separate from the ‘productive’ buckets of “past and future taxpayers”, when it’s eminently clear that many of them will also fall into those precise categories. It’s an entirely...

Is there no chance of any of the people you’ve thrown onto the “unproductive” pile ever making it into the “future taxpayers” bracket, or are we just going full workhouse politics here?

We should absolutely smash them at their best, would be delighted if we had them in our group tbh

USA-Iran-Saudi Arabia group 🙏

In relative terms it has to be Dasilva - while he hasn’t hit the heights of players like Rudoni or Torp, to go from a regular liability to a first team mainstay is a remarkable turnaround.

With Curacao qualifying, are we about to see Gervane Kastaneer play at the actual World Cup?

Laid it on a plate for him

Anyone started Pluribus on Apple TV? I’m always willing to trust the process when it comes to Vince Gilligan, and Rhea Seehorn (and the camerawork) is predictably great. But I’m struggling with it somewhat and not entirely sure how far they can stretch the concept. Especially with such a grumpy...

Surely one of the most egregious acting Oscars of this century (a hotly contested category tbf)

I don’t think many people on here can understand your urge to spend time and resources on overhauling a squad that is currently top of the league by a comfortable margin.

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-benefactor-loan-5404235 With all due respect to Overson for the good work he’s done in funding the club during its rough times, there is something to be said for benefactors remaining anonymous

Why do you think we appointed Rhys Carr?

We’ve had no shots on goal, barely had the ball so far.

He was on international duty