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  1. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    Where is the evidence that they'd have paid that £2m? What in their previous behaviour gives any indication they'd have done so? There is nothing but negotiations that get reneged on with a lower price involved and there is nothing to suggest this time would've been any different. You can...
  2. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    Car dealer: OK, £5k Me: Actually looking again I think it's only worth £3k. Car dealer: You're taking the piss but £3k. Me: Nah, I actually reckon it's only worth £2k on reflection. Spot the pattern yet? No actual money changing hands just a constant downward negotiation. And just to complete...
  3. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    Agreements were made in principal. Then as the contracts were being discussed terms were changed and SISU reneged. So using the analogy that'd be the girl saying £100. You saying Ok then when she asks for the money you saying no £80. She reluctantly says Ok. You say £50. She tells you to fuck...
  4. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    Apples and oranges. I've paid more to tax, fuel, insure and service my car than I paid for it outright. Has Wasps financial expenditure on the stadium just been the purchase price? They could've worked out the break-even point when they bought the club of purchase via the option plus...
  5. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    Just as you're guessing they would've paid it. Difference is my educated guess is based on over a decade of that exact behaviour of making agreements and then pulling out. Previous behaviour is the best indicator of future behaviour. What part of their previous actions suggest they were going...
  6. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    How much money have SISU actually paid towards purchasing the ground in all the years they've been here? None. Zip. Nada. Square root of fuck all. Until that changes prove to me they DON'T want it for free. Not words saying they'll do something - actual cash changing hands.
  7. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    At what point are you going to understand the difference between an offer and consideration? Difference. £2.77m was actually paid by Wasps. Contracts drawn up, agreed and paid for. Offer, acceptance and consideration all sorted in a few months. SISU - years of negotiating back and forth...
  8. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    Can you prove they'd have paid that? Or would they have then reneged again with another valuation saying £2m was overpriced. They'd already done it for their original £5.5m offer. Along with numerous other negotiations regarding use of the arena. How many times does a company have to pull out...
  9. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    Yes they wanted it for free. They never intended to hand over any money. The offer was there solely to string the process along. An offer is nothing until there is consideration. £150k was during the admin process. Didn't include FB money, increased if promoted and also had conditions regarding...
  10. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    Would that be showing SISU agreeing to pay a price for something and then reneging and changing it to a much lower price? My, I am shocked! How did this happen? Oh, because it's what always happens when they're involved.
  11. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    OFFERED! They've said that loads of times. Never actually end up following through though. Always find a reason to pull out at the last minute before they ever actually part with the money. ACTIONS NOT WORDS! By the same accounts Hoffman has offered just as many times to buy the club. Gets...
  12. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    This is the point. When CCC/Higgs say things couldn't be done it's 'to bullshit people'. When SISU say the same thing (and have done on numerous occassions) it's taken at face value? Why are they not 'bullshitting people'? There's bad blood and bullshit on all sides and I don't doubt for a...
  13. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    Because that's why Hillfields was such a well to do area when the football club were there.... Everyone swimming in cash from the two dozen days a year when people came to the area. Fact is the retail park created thousands of jobs, giving people more money and made the area economically active...
  14. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    Saying they'd be interested is one thing. Actually paying is another. The said they were interested in a cheaper rental deal. When it was offered they backed away saying they wanted FB income. When they were offered the FB income they declined saying they wanted the leasehold. Then they...
  15. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    The owners had ages to bid for that stadium. Instead they chose to try and put it out of business to get it for free. They claimed they wanted a fairer rent deal - one was (eventually) offered.They then said no, we want F&B income too. ACL said we can't really do that without breaking the...
  16. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    They stated there were conditions on the bid that they couldn't legally agree to. I've no idea what they were. Neither do you. There may have been things about community projects in there. Doesn't make those the things they couldn't legally agree to.
  17. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    George Floyd

    So the police stopped you because you were in a dodgy Escort's arse?
  18. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Transfer Rumour Callum O'Hare - Confirmed

    Year before we were gutted we weren't getting Bright back. O'Hare came in in his stead. I'd be happy if O'Hare signed, but he's not worth breaking the bank for.
  19. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Ricoh Lease...

    Why do we as a club sell players without revealing the interest? Similarly how do we sign players without anyone having the fainest idea until they're signed? Surely all interest in any player should be revealed publicly by the selling club to get the best price? If they don't they're...
  20. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    I would give you a like but evasion is illegal. Avoidance is legal
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