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The things they do for love.

Equally I don’t believe if Remain had won 52-48 that the Leave campaign would have said - fair enough, we at least gave it a try. They would have played on the country essentially being split down the middle, and probably with fair comment.

I think Leave would win again... some remainers are oblivious to this...

Probably right... but you have to look at locations of those seats. The Labour leave vote is concentrated in the N of England. If Labour loses that they can’t make it up by floaty centrists from the Home Counties.

It’s a big mistake.

It’s only the end if they go full tilt remain.

About bloody time.

And this is the epitome of the problem. We are as divided as before, except it’s now more entrenched and the possibility of compromise reduces every day.

Political apathy means the establishment stays in power... it’s the best strategy for an imploding Tory party at the moment.

Or alternatively they finished only 5% ahead of single policy parties, with 3 years of campaigning behind them. None of them will address austerity, inequality or the general woes of society .... so it doesn’t count for shit sadly. Lies, damn lies and statistics....

And if my Dad had a fanny he’d be my Mum. You can’t extrapolate up results for a party with only one policy.

They have lost Wales for the same reason they lost Scotland.. the Blair legacy of ambivalence towards towards austerity, and not championing investment in areas that desperately need it.

Yes you are right... which means the main parties need to find a way to arrange a sensible exit from the EU. Not the car-crash shite that Farage wants.

If Labour come out as a Remain party it will lose the next GE. Too many key seats that they will lose with this stance. And for those with the usual ‘leftie’ comments... it’s the centrists that want to remain... you’re looking in the wrong direction.

You’ve illustrated my point perfectly.... anything except a no deal is called a ‘remainers Brexit’ - it’s bullshit.

There is as much appetite for Remaining as there is for a No Deal. The solution needs to be an exit somewhere in the middle.

Anyone but Bran for me...

The irony....

Anti-establishment.... Clinton was the epitome of the establishment.

The referendum result was one that said fuck you to 35+ years of this neo-liberal bullshit. You fuckers are all rich, we are getting poorer and poorer by the day and the things we need in our society/local community (jobs, housing, welfare, infrastructure investment outside of London) have gone...