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I'd certainly agree that SISU should've moved far, far earlier to get the stadium. The best deal, imho, was the one proposed in Fisher's roadmap (as quoted in the JR at length). That would've got the club what they needed, and cleared the bloody mortgage (which is now hanging over the...

There's logic in that, agreed, but I've got to say that I can see the other side of it too. I suppose if even the best deal we can hope for from Wasps is an unsustainable deal for the club, maybe the gamble on their failure is actually the only option. Truthfully, as above, I think that SISU...

In fairness, we're not a million miles away on this. Of course, this presupposes that SISU can hold a straightforward negotiation, and as I'm sure you've pointed out having a JR pointing at the council that may well impact Wasps isn't going to help. My honest opinion mate, for what it's worth...

Yep, sorry Tony, was paraphrasing. I'm sure we get 100% of the ticket sales - I meant the ancillary stuff like F&B and parking. Stuff that only comes if we're playing at the Ricoh.

"Council chief: We need time to rebuild trust before we discuss Ricoh Arena ownership" http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/council-chief-need-time-rebuild-7651892 Phil Townshend (Acting Leader, CCC). 21st August 2014.

Personally speaking, I'd say no. I would, quite honestly, sit tight. However, let's say that you did decide to do a deal with Wasps along these lines - if I was negotiating, I'd start along the lines that without CCFC playing, there is no matchday income at the Ricoh. However having the club...

Unless there's access to income streams from ACL, then there probably isn't a good deal to be had from the club's point of view, I'd suggest. It's why the otherwise utterly daft idea of the new stadium actually might have some tiny amount of merit...

Fair comment, there's logic to the last point in particular. Honestly though italia, and I'm not saying this to provoke, if I was in Fisher's shoes I think I'd want to sit tight a bit and see how the Wasps thing plays out. I'm far from convinced that it's a certainty that it's going to be the...

Wasps haven't put anything into the infrastructure either, they've just bought the operating company. If CCFC weren't playing at the Ricoh there wouldn't be any matchday income to share. I'm honestly surprised that anyone would think this is a good deal, or that CCFC could thrive on these terms.

My thought is that they knew this long before going - I don't think the number plate was deliberate, but the boorish, juvenile (and to be honest, occasionally racist) attitude to the places they go to on these world trips seems specifically designed to provoke a reaction. Maybe they got a bit...

Or let's think about what we're actually saying before we write it. You'd tie us into a long term rent deal with Wasps, for just 50% of the matchday revenue? Seriously?

Possibly, but then what would they benefit from keeping the club down by doing this? They'd lose money on both ends - the club makes more if it's successful, and ACL which they'd also own makes more from hosting a successful club.

It's 50% of matchday revenue (of which about 100% is down to the team playing there, presumably). So not 50% of the total revenue. Presumably a new stadium would at least give us access to the total revenue stream. Wasps have bought that for themselves at the Ricoh of course, and with their...

Indeed, perhaps it's a pity it wasn't offered to CCFC for the same amount, eh. They still might not have bought it in fairness, but I guess we'll never know now. Similarly, Wasps would be finished if their benfactor walked away and stopped funding them.

I'd say that you don't do it by demanding the resignation of the bloke you've got to deal with, or that the owners sell up. You stick at it, stay polite, and keep asking the questions. If the owners won't answer then that's what you report. You're there to act as a link between the fans and...

The neutral ground would be somewhere between sitting down for tea and biscuits and listening to a PR speech unchallenged on one side, and flat out demanding that they resign and sell up on the other. I think there's a bit of space somewhere to aim at there.

Fair comment DTD, as ever. I guess if it mattered to me that much, I should get off my arse and go and talk to the guys from the trust to make my point - maybe even offer to pitch in a little. I've criticised others for carping from the sidelines, perhaps it applies to me here too...

Fair enough - it's not a big deal. Like I say, this is just my opinion - others differ. I'm not claiming that my opinion is any more valid than anyone else's, except in my head.

I suppose in fairness to the ref, there's not much he can do about it. As long as it's not dangerous and you can see the lines I think that's all he's allowed to to concern himself about. Maybe we should do the cricket thing and bring out the heavy roller at half-time. <Insert own Micky...

Guilty as charged, Wingy. :)