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So much for Kier taking responsibility.... 😂

The party should focus on the areas where it has control and look to make a difference at local level for now. What can it’s councils implement, what can these metro mayors do - and then go and share that message and tell people what you actually did. And forget the word waffle bollocks.

Shit take of the day here.

You are right - but what it does tell you that the agenda in these areas is cutting through.... and it’s not Starmer Tory-lite tribute.

As I understood it. Been trying to get flights for the mother in law to visit her son as she’s got Parkinson’s and worried how much longer she’ll be able to keep going. Already had to cancel twice, but they were pretty insistent nothing from the UK and Europe, only their own travel Corridor with...

For someone who is looking to go to Australia to see family, the current situation is they won’t let you in until at least October, so putting them on the green list is pointless.

I’d go for it to be honest, but would forcing Starmer out right now be useful? Unless he goes completely entrenched of course.

But Labour makes a mistake if it thinks all this is about nostalgia and looking backwards. It is also about the present. People on the ground, far from the elite and academic discussions in the capital, want the basic things done right. They want job security themselves – not zero hours...

What the fucking fuck does that even mean???

Hartlepool - the worst possible Lab candidate they could have picked for that seat. Staunch remainer in a 70% leave area. At the very least pick someone who is from the constituency, had no association with the PV debacle and then at least it might have been a fight.

So what is so different in places like Manchester and Liverpool then? Are there no wokies there or is the place full of them?

Are we seeing a legacy of poor management at local level by Labour finally being challenged, that is being exacerbated by perceived Tory success of Brexit and vaccine program.... as in they trust the Tories now to have a go and do better?

2 votes for Labour and one for Green as they only put forward 2.

The second part may well be true right now. So in that case, just concentrate on what you can do where you have control and show people that you can get things done. And maybe don’t make stupid decisions like the Lab candidate choice for a Hartlepool along the way.

Mandelson as usual is talking shite. This is on Starmer plain and simple. He’s had a year to get his vision across and he’s only come up with ‘not Corbyn’ which according to Mandelson should have been more than enough. The reality is he does not give people any reason to vote for him or his...

It’s not the fault of Momentum, they often represent younger people trying to engage in politics. You need to look at the middle class London centrist politicians that think they know what is best for Northern working class people.

The Labour voters that defected never went back though.... possibly because the candidate shoehorned in was an ardent Remainer? Or was the lack of any kind of messaging other than ‘I’m not Corbyn by the way’

There is a huge demographic of people that are not home owners and stuck renting with no prospect of escaping. When Labour came out with a policy of a huge affordable housing program in 2017 it will have resonated massively. That’s how I interpret Liquids point anyway.

My advice on reflection is that we’ve got to get out and do stuff at council level while we have the opportunity. When you look at what Burnham is doing in Manchester, or some of the Labour councils in places like Hull or Preston they are doing tangible stuff. Whether it’s a regional bus scheme...