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  1. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    The building managers I suppose. Like I say though if the Council own the building I'm sure they would've signed it off either as the building owner or Building Control (a council department).
  2. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    I've just heard this job was never signed off by the building owners, which unsurprisingly is the local council. I've seen and disbelieved the cover-up stories, but this is most definitely one. Why would you spend £10mill and not sign it off? I can't imagine it's the building management...
  3. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    You seem to have an idea about this sort of thing, so you'll know it was the BSI that signed this Material off for use in high rise blocks. The project manager just picks the best option available to suit the brief.
  4. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    I disagree. I think the buck stops at the people at the BSI (British standards institute) that signed off on the product being suitable many years ago. It not the manufacture, the installer, the main contractor, the building manager or the building owners fault. They all used a product that...
  5. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    Send the twat in and let her count the bodies. I'm sure she'd be keen to confirm the number instead of letting the media cover it up.
  6. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    Actual dead and confirmed dead are going to be different at this stage. She's a media version of CC4L just trying to cause a scene and draw attention to herself. At this time she's completely out of order and irrelevant.
  7. We'll_live_and_die

    John Terry to Birmingham

    Looks Like you'll be needing to change doesn't it.
  8. We'll_live_and_die

    Your own new political party

    Ahh balls. I thought I was dreaming. This keeps happening you know. I think I'm having a dream about arguing on SBT and I then realise the CC4L actually is real.
  9. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    This image shows that the Insulation has actually stood up quite well having just charred and not ignited.
  10. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    Here's a real worrying snippet from the cladding manufacturer: "Reynobond aluminium composite panels are perfectly adapted to inside as well as outside applications thanks to their excellent weather protection. The fields of applications for aluminium composite panels are Architecture...
  11. We'll_live_and_die

    Your own new political party

    I find that hard to believe coming from you.
  12. We'll_live_and_die

    Your own new political party

    Just because you have your own political party does not mean you can change the will of the people. Brexit is happening as it has been voted for.
  13. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    It seems they are now saying the Alloy cladding itself contained the flammable plastic and it wasn't the insulation. That would make more sense, I suppose with the insulation being fire retardant the detail is passed off as the fire can't get through the materials and would be contained...
  14. We'll_live_and_die

    John Terry to Birmingham

    'Arry though aint it. We've seen the sort of players a man with a rep can bring in as Mowbray did with Cole.
  15. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    Besides that lad on TV who said it was started deliberately so they can get the poor people out of Kensington, I've not seen any locals or survivors laying blame with people. Everyone wants to know what happened and why. This for instance is unfair. The luxurious lifestyle of the cladding firm...
  16. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    That's wrong. The insulation used is fire retardant, so it shows how hot it must've been. It was specifically designed for this use. Celotex RS5000 PIR insulation solution http://www.densol.biz/downloads/catlogues/BS%20476%20Part%206.pdf...
  17. We'll_live_and_die

    McGregor vs Mayweather

    McGregor is made for life even if he goes down in the first.
  18. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    When there's a shit tonne of smoke really quickly flood the place.
  19. We'll_live_and_die

    London fire

    Just a thought, could they not tell people to put plugs in and turn on taps? Once aware of a fire?
  20. We'll_live_and_die

    McGregor vs Mayweather

    Is TF ever going to get back into the game? Seems to have mental and drug issues.
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