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I understand your point now, not sure I agree though ;) Like I say in the early years I think there would have been more away fans, but by 11/12 I would have thought most teams would have brought similar numbers to what they had at HR.

Yes in those seasons I would agree with you. Away fans want to come and see a new ground. I think though by 11/12 any away fan that was interested would have already been.

I'm not sure what you mean. All but four away followings in the 11/12 season could have fit into the away end at HR. Are you saying the Ricoh was more popular than HR with away fans in general?

No but what difference does that make? Its logical to assume the teams that brought 1500 to HR would also bring 1500 to the Ricoh. The only difference is to those teams that were capable of bringing more than 3.5k - 4k.

That assumption is wrong I'm afraid. In the 11/12 season only four teams brought a following larger than HR away end would hold. Namely Leicester, Brum, West Ham and Leeds. They each brought around 2500 more than HR could have housed. So an extra 10k over 23 games works out at 434 people. Like...

It is a betrayal. Your saying fans should stick by the club through thick and thin. I don't disagree with that, but the same must apply to the club. Yet what has happened is it got a bit difficult for the club to play in Coventry, so it ran off. You cant get much more of a definition of...

Joy wont work with Coventry Council. The daft cow has made that perfectly clear. Broadly speaking though, I wouldn't be against them building another ground within the city, provided it was in a sensible location. If they want to waste millions on a pointless ground then so be it. Playing in...

What would they do? Tim Fisher would be laughing his capacious tits off, that's what they would do. Like I say, the loyalty has been broken. I, and many others would and have put up with pretty much anything so long as they were part of our city. The club has abandoned our great city, and that...

Am I taking it a bit seriously? Well lets just say that for me the most important quality in any person or organisation is loyalty. 10-15k people were extremely loyal to the club. No matter how bad it got, we were there supporting the club, asking for nothing in return other than it represented...

We played brilliantly against Blackburn. Most home areas were full that game.

The club has abandoned us remember. I'm still here, ready to support my Coventry based team. Sisu have forced our club commit an act of treachery against out city, and for that I will never forgive them

But that doesn't explain why Andy Thorn had more people watching than Eric Black does it? The Ricoh had been there over 6 years by then. In what was our worst season in 50 years, to still be able to pull in crowds better than a lot of decent seasons at HR suggests to me it wasn't considered...

If reducing outgoings means reducing income by a far greater amount then no. I am willing to have a bet with you that losses now are far greater than this time last year.

Pointless when you reduce the clubs income by a far greater amount. In other news I hear British Leyland reduced their outgoings to zero last financial year. They must be doing really well now. No doubt we will soon be seeing Triumphs, Austins, and Wolseleys dominating Britain's roads again soon.

Good point. Crewe game was sold out despite the attendance being about 1300 below capacity. HR used to be "sold out" at about 22k despite the capacity being well over 23k.

60 acres brownfield sites then. Cant be many of them knocking round is there? Should easily be able to work out where its going to be.

Could you explain why?

It was nearly 4k at HR IIRC. I think the impact of away crowds is miniscule when averaged out. When you see that over the course of the season Andy Thorn drew in more fans than Eric Black then the Ricoh was clearly more popular.

Selling off a sports hall is hardly comparable to selling the ground or the companies last fixed asset.

Averages below. Still higher than the initial capacity of the Garlick Bowl. Coincidently it also blows away the myth that HR was more appealing to fans as comparable crowds were always much higher at the Ricoh. 04/05 16048 03/04 14816 02/03 14813 01/02 16150