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That's a very broad brush you are tarring everyone with there. I was in London yesterday and there were loads from the march at Victoria train station and all I could see was families and many old people. Just normal people. None of them were looking for trouble. I had to wait an hour for my...

Every other march has passed off really peacefully. Why did it kick off yesterday? Because the likes of the Daily Mail and Suella Braverman whipped everyone up into a frenzy. Nearly all the arrests and trouble yesterday was from the far right mob who turned up looking for trouble.

All the violence is awful, but why are you only showing the one side? There were 300,000 on the march and I don't know how many EDL types. Guessing maybe hundreds, possibly a thousand? The vast majority of trouble and the vast majority of arrests were from the anti protestor group.

Yup. Stoked it, fired it up, whipped up a frenzy.

I think they always were going to.

Get your Tats out for the lads?

Trouble is, football doesn't always work like that. Form comes and goes and we can't simply say that because Leeds are on a great run now, they will still be on a great run when we play them. They have 5 games to play before they meet us. Same with Sunderland. Teams.can have great runs and...

Protests.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I gave my reasons and that was because my father had just died and though I heard that something had gone on, I didn't read anything about the actual incident itself until at least a couple of days later. 🤷

I haven't seen any footage, as I am on a train right now, but the police say they arrested more than 100 counter protestors. So that's the ejits who turned up looking for trouble.

I never pay any attention to your posts until you calm down a couple of days later. 😂

Depends. If Simms was.one of the players who had been ill, it would make perfect sense wouldn't it. Would love to hear what Robins has to say on the matter.

Palestinians and settlers?

Jane Seymour?

Genuine question here, do we think all Hamas fighters (said to be totalling between 30,000-40,000), are still fighting in Gaza? Do we honestly believe that none "escaped" or "fled" with civilians? Seems logical to me that quite a number of them would indeed have blended in with the crowds so...

Ye Yes, exactly. You are increasing the hatred here and turning people to hate.

I think we will be revisiting this thread in the years to come, Tom, because now I think there will be an increase of terrorism in the West and terrorist attacks here, in Europe and the US. I think this has now increased the terrorist risk substantially. I do fear for today now too. 😢

I agree. There doesn't seem to be an end. This is not going to make anything better though is it. You are just going to get even more people hating Israel.

Yes. I mean there is no answer now because of what has happened. This has surely set things back decades

And you don't think killing thousands of children is going to create even more anger and hatred and therefore have more willing to take up arms?