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On the original topic of the thread. I take it we are not building a 15k modular stadium at the Butts arena then? Does anyone know how the talks went between the new guy for SISU and ACL the other day? I think the day before the meeting he had an accident (??) in the press letting...

Do you know how I was defending them mate. I defend them for having the balls to meet you face to face to explain their decisions even if I disagree with their logic. I liked the plan of signing young emerging talent Fox, Dann, Gunnutson, Westwood and even the idea of selling them on for...

Is that the same as freehold with no council involvement at all? As there is a document saying that. I will hold my hands up and say I don't have a clue at this stage but I don't think in my humble opinion a 125 lease is the same as freehold or nothing is it?

Sorry mate I did see the thread but not what you were actually referring to. Hence I hoped you had it. As I never saw that in the thread, thought to myself where the heck had that comment come from??

Before SISU's negotiation tactics? Or as a result off?

Yes I agree that's what happened. I think Wasps benefited from the hostile negotiation approach. I think the decision to take that action resulted in a combination of options 2-3. I think if the clock got wound back SISU would probably now pay 7-8 million for all of ACL and it would still be...

Thanks Italia I just remember Joy saying 100% freehold as she cannot work with the council in anyway or form. Hence why the 125 year or 250 year lease doesn't make sense to me. With that in place she still has the Council involved be it a minor role.

Seriously?? Have you got the link by any chance? I can see why you would find it funny!!!

You are told it is worth £5.5 million You want to pay £2million. You withhold rent in order to make it worth 2 million. From what we are hearing now even if it was actually worth a figure in the middle. It's seems to me it was worth paying 4-5 million for it. You take the action...

Is this unencumbered line banded about different to saying the club must own 100% of the freehold?

Yes agree re Murphy

Astute what we're talking about a couple a weeks ago about an old thread and me defending SISU?

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but what was ACL really worth to SISU? If what we are getting told now is correct the club has no future without it. Other than to build a new stadium. A new stadium I think will cost more than what ACL could have been bought for. So you have a few...

Murphy is just bizzare. A real dilemma on his game or even for ten minutes in a game untouchable. Then so many spells of messing up his first or final touch. A guess that is the way it is with a developing lad. For this one I would like to see him come on as an impact player on 60 mins. Lameries...

Is Joe Murphy still looking for a future elsewhere?

That was just for you Nick

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Been reading everything on here most days. Tried to login in most days as well ( as sad as that sounds) no reborning required. Still as passionate always felt that discussing the future and survival of the club was far moreimportant than discussing the matches themselves. No future = no match...

Nick I would be surprised if people would sue you on here if you felt that they were only on here to do the PR for one side or the other. If they genuinely are they cant sue you. If they are not I am sure they would very easily be able to prove to you that they are not. If your rebirth comment...

And you mate it's been really frustrating. I am sure I read something the other day from astute laughing about me on old posts that were dug up with me defending SISU but could even post to ask what that was all about!!!! Also still in shock that we were playing the other day and bringing on...