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    Positives to take from this

    Love is a strong word. A mid-table Tuesday night game in February and I can easily start to dislike it again (but how I'd love one of those at the moment).
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    Can't Seppela be arsed ?

    How do we know that? There will be lines in the sand, but I am willing to bet they will have some freedom to negotiate (within certain parameters), otherwise the whole thing is pointless and there will be no CVA (and she clearly wants that). Perhaps I'm too much of an optimist, but I'd be very...
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    Can't Seppela be arsed ?

    Perhaps ACL don't want her there - it appears TF has been shut out. She needs to show her face and front the fans - yes - but not sure it is necessary for her to be at this meeting when she reportedly has 3 people there representing her.
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    Warring parties secret talks in last-ditch attempt to keep Sky Blues in Coventry

    If (and it is a big if) a deal is done and we start the season at the Ricoh - this threat to move to Northampton (or anywhere else for that matter) will never resurface again. Not even SISU are that stupid.
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    IF (?) agreement is reached and we're back at the Ricoh...

    If that is the case, it means (by definition) that income exceeds expenditure - which would require the club to make a profit. Do you think SISU have made the club profitable?
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    If a last minute Ricoh deal was done?

    Have to say, it's very reassuring that so many are saying they will support the club if they play at the Ricoh. As someone said earlier, after all the fuss about 'keep cov in cov', other supporters would think we were crazy to then boycott the Ricoh. There is hope for this season yet - just a...
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    Mark Robins knew the score.....

    You believe Tim Fisher now :D It doesn't matter. All land costs, decontamination costs, build costs are all shown and they total £118m. It then shows you the breakdown of how that £118m was funded, and the council were responsible for £12 million of it. Exactly what the funds were spent on...
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    Mark Robins knew the score.....

    You're comparing apples with oranges to an extent. The Liberty Stadium is much more reliant on the football club in terms of income - there are no big concerts there, no exhibition hall, no hotel, no underground casino. You would think therefore, that of the two, the management company at the...
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    Mark Robins knew the score.....

    The point is Jack, you cannot really separate out the land deal in the way you tried to earlier in order to try and inflate the council's contribution. The bottom line is this (and it is in black and white on the report you linked to) - the total cost (that's ALL land and build costs) was...
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    Mark Robins knew the score.....

    Talking of Swansea, this is how their council leader responded to calls that Swansea City should pay more rent: Mr Holley said he was "astonished that the Labour leader wants to penalise the Swans in this way". He added: "We should be helping them to achieve more not taxing them on their...
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    Mark Robins knew the score.....

    £24 million was the cost of acquiring the land - a portion of which was sold on for £59.5 million to Tesco. 'Bryan Richardson's finest hour' I think it was called at the time :thinking about:. It was a good deal no matter how you view it. £17 million was the cost of decontamination.
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    Mark Robins knew the score.....

    The combined value of the land, bricks and mortar, and the business that operates the facility is worth many tens of millions - but there is no prospect of the council ever selling the freehold. What is the value of the business that owns the lease? Your guess is as good as mine. It turns...
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    Mark Robins knew the score.....

    The council saved the project by securing a £21 million back loan that has been paid back by ACL, that is a matter of documented fact. It wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for that - nobody is seeking to deny that (I am sure we all wish now that they hadn't done it, especially as we now know...
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    Mark Robins knew the score.....

    Yet again, you are grossly misrepresenting the facts on the Tesco deal. That you have managed to reach a figure of '£95m' and kept a straight face is staggering. The equity investment represents pretty much the sum total of the council's actual contribution. You have a very hazy recollection...
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    Mark Robins knew the score.....

    Yeah, I get that. The nature of internet message boards is that they go off on tangents though. No harm in it and this is just your standard fans forum fayre I guess. You're right though, no point picking over the past.
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    Mark Robins knew the score.....

    What grant? That never happened.
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    Mark Robins knew the score.....

    I am sure that on an individual level, what you say is true. The council's biggest errors date back to when SISU took control. The club was on its knees at that point, but I don't ever recall the council - or more specifically ACL - offering to help the club by revisiting the terms of the...
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    season tickets now on sale

    My belief is that they genuinely thought they would achieve gates of 5000-6000 outside of the city and formulated a business plan on that basis. When it becomes evident that they will not achieve anything like this, and the realisation that they are going to have to pump in considerably more...
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    season tickets now on sale

    I highlighted the difference in my own post, so no disagreement there. I do disagree we'll never see CCFC again if they start in Northampton. I think a scenario where we start the season at Sixfields but make a hasty return to Coventry is feasible (and actually likely) - surely that would be...
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    Mark Robins knew the score.....

    But seeing as little or no taxpayers money ever went in to the stadium, why should that be of concern? Of course they need to keep it viable because they need to be sure that ACL can continue to meet their obligations in terms of repayments, but otherwise what responsibility do they have to...
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