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I think Sunderland might be a decent comparison given the way the 2 clubs are managed. Average players on huge contracts, no design on what they want to be. That led to back to back relegations for Sunderland... Surely couldn't happen to Everton though?!?

I can't believe nobody has made more of Hamer's role in their opener. Challenge with Zinckernagel 30 yards from goal that he's probably favourite to win & he just pulls out of it & lets him have it. 😡

Sorry, hold my hands up, this one's on me! 🤭

I totally agree, we will almost certainly sell 1 or even 2 of our top assets, that seems inevitable. Provided we get the correct fee though & reinvest wisely we've always known this, it's just the reality of where we are. That probably wouldn't have changed even if we'd made the top 6 (unless we...

Fair comments but it was overplayed with many suggesting we hadn't strengthened at all & had in fact gone backwards. That was unfounded.

Last summer was yes?

It was exactly the same last summer & was completely unfounded. Let's wait & see.

I didn't but ok... He was a reasonable manager 7 or 8 years ago but is a dinosaur in today's game. He has an ever so slightly better PPG than Robins but given the teams he managed & players at his disposal it really should be significantly better than MR's. His last period of anything...

And?

Yeah absolutely, think he's pretty much the exception though. I'm not saying that. My point was specifically those 2 clubs are an exception. Most owners don't have neverending resources. Stoke's losses are eyewatering, they're literally being propped up by Bet365. Slightly better yes, we...

No, those 2 probably not in fairness but other rich fans might. Derby fans were convinced it would never happen with Mel Morris as he "loves the club"

Which is great until they do a Mel Morris & decide they're fed up of picking up the tab after repeated failures.

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7 or 8 years ago maybe & mostly in League 1. Not sure about picking Leyton Orient either, his tenure at Portsmouth was such a disaster I can't imagine he was highly sought after.

He's no Kenny Jackett that's for sure.

Yeah, can work for some as they are forced to get rid of dross they can't afford & rebuild. Everton though are so badly managed, they have absolutely zero idea what they want to be or direction they want to take. End up signing loads of players that don't really fit a system & then chop &...

Not sure relegation would do it. They need owners with a clue about football. I said back in June that they'd be in for a tough ride.

Think he & Hyam were switched last night as we know Davis likes to drift over to the left. Didn't work though as he absolutely bullied Hyam. In terms of technical ability Rose might be our best CB, in terms of his actual performances though he's certainly not.

Yeah, football creditors have to be paid in full. Imagine if Derby owed millions to a lower league club & didn't pay it all, they might end up in administration too. Derby have been incredibly fortunate that Arsenal don't need the money really, they've willingly deferred payments.

Nothing to do with what I think, it's fact, look it up. 16th, pretty much bang on mid table which is what he's arguing against (I think, difficult to keep track).