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Spot on Astute - it was just a handful of games not enough to judge AT on his new squad - OK so that's history - what worries me now is obviously patience of SISU/Fisher is non-existent - so how many games is the next guy going to get? Nobody is going to get a contract out of these guys that...

Good Point Nick - I do find it quite annoying that Fisher & Waggot seem to be making out they are quite blameless in all this - if they were as close to all this as they are making out they should have realised AGES ago that it wan't going to work out with AT so why didn't they do something...

Can't see anyone buying this off SISU - their expectations and valuation of the club are simply way too high Only way anyone else is going to come in is if club goes into Administration after SISU have had enough of the losses - that will be this season if we don't go up

Fisher is really beginning to worry me now A drop of £650k on a legally binding contract is a HUGE concession from ACL and fair play to them for that - that puts massive pressure on their profits but they were prepared to do it - really this was a lot better than I could have expected and I...

Agreed OTIS - HAS to be more to this - if it isn't then we are in REAL trouble with Fisher at the helm as clearly he doesn't know what he's doing

Fair point - would make a lot more sense of all of this - the timing I mean - if it were down to some other issues we are not party to - I could then understand why we was fired so early on in the new season after being given the go ahead to build a new squad

He had Shaw though

If Fisher had a good handle on all this AT would have been gone long ago last season - it was obvious then it wasn't working albeit with the constraints on AT - I think he is under MASSIVE pressure from SISU and just cannot afford to let results slip for even a few games - timing of the sacking...

I believe he was you know - I think SISU have just panicked

Doesn't much matter anyway - he's playing for Barcelona now according to Di Canio

Axing Thorn so quickly showed us a little of SISU's mind - they are looking at continuing big losses in this league which they won't want to fund - we have sold everyone we can for now- they HAVE to get us back up or it will continue to cost Millions a year to fund - I'm convinced they are...

My point is he was part of the set-up that did for Thorn - if Thorn was judged on that he had Shaw with him - ok we've had one good game - that's not enough top make a decision on Shaw -same as 4 games for AT wasn't enough - Shaw may well be brilliant but we would need to see a dozen games...

Wasn't a big help to AT though was he? What was he doing biding his time?

If they need five games to find a replacement then fair enough - 'trying out' Shaw for five games is mindless - they might as well have left AT in and given him a fairer crack at it with the squad he put together rover the summer - it has to be an external appointment and a decent one at that

They panicked - pure and simple that is all - no conspiracy here

Yep Wise has the X factor over the likes of THORN for sure - that counts for a great deal at this level

No doubt a much better performance by many but it's just ONE game.. there are many many more and we need some decent convincing wins before I allow myself to even start thinking of a promotion push We are capable with this squad but we need an experienced manager to guide them

We have the players - what we need is that ballsy little bastard Wise in to make them really want to play - Shaw will be a good foil for Wise - Wise will get respect from a the players in a way most of the other applicants could never really do - he's not going to put up with anyone not giving...

Always lifts my day that kind of result :D

Er hang on a minute... Wasn't Shaw working with Thorn these past weeks or did I imagine that? So did Shaw just hold off helping Thorn with the team or something for all those games? Is Shaw the magical missing ingredient? Would Thorn have won this game? ONE game and some of you want to...