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Guy at work was planning to go to Sunderland game with his family, it will cost £131 for the four of them before you add on other expenses. I'm not sure he'll be doing that very often. There will be a big seconds market this season, lots of season tickets will be sold on when people can't make...

Good point. I imagine we'll pay more than £37 only once all season away from home.

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It's a 20% rise for b/c and 12% for cat a?

We didn't get that sort of walk up last season when we had 5000 fewer ST holders and prices were cheaper. Many of those walk ups will now have season tickets anyway. For the odd game perhaps, but not often.

They have set the game as cat B so perhaps are confident of a home end sell out for this one so retaining the option to split the end.

Cat B and C have gone up 20%, not that similar!

I think they will retain the option, but I'm not sure they will as a matter of course. Boro capped at 3K.

The club clearly feel that with limited availability they can price at this level because of supply/demand. If we're mid table in November when we play Stoke, if more than 500 pay £37, I will be amazed. Obviously prices were going up, but hoped the movement would be more confined to cat C and...

You can't possibly know that. The structure of the deal has been reported in the Turkish press. Of course payments will be phased, as will our payments from Sporting Lisbon, but just because one deal has a promotion clause it doesn't mean this one does.

Our wage bill was £16m in last accounts I recall? How can they get it so wrong 😂

I don't think anyone is that arsed, but these are fair observations. Also, if we're talking about ST sale dates, match ticket info and sale release, ST despatch, kit announcements and availability, I think it is far to say it was far better last summer than it has been this year. Maybe you have...

Tbh I'm not that concerned by these delays, it's a bit odd, but it'll be sorted I'm sure. That said, it does amaze me how triggered and upset some people get if the clubs commercial operations are criticised or questioned, it's like they take it personally.

What's way over the top, saying it's a bit strange but it will no doubt be sorted and there must be a valid reason? Proper hyperbolic that!

The fact match tickets are not on sale is a bit odd though? I know it'll be sorted, I expect an announcement in the next couple of days, but it doesn't make a huge amount of sense. Given the noise the club made about cash flow when explaining why ST sales were delayed, you surely get tickets on...

He has been excellent since he arrived, and has won player of the season two years on the bounce. He did kick on last season, but the bar was already very high. This division has seen countless players bought for £1 million that have not got anywhere near Hamer's level, it just isn't that easy.

It has always staggered me that two of England's largest provisional cities, just 20 miles apart, don't have a direct train link. I doubt such a situation doesn't exists anywhere else in Europe. Would normally get train but have to get coach. Getting to Sky Blue Tavern for 7am opening, assuming...

Exactly, £7-£8 a game more is perfectly reasonable. I was responding to a post and other comments suggesting £35 for every game would be justified and I was saying that was excessive and penalised those who cannot commit to a ST (exiled fans for example) more than was reasonable.

I can see a lot of Boro fans peppering their twitter admin for details of tickets for our game, but are being told they have yet to receive any details from us. I don't suspect there is an issue here other than we're in no rush, but it is a tad late.

You seem to be suggesting all those missed chances were a positive? OK fine. It's about opinions and we're clearly miles apart. Like Godden, appreciate what he has done for the club, and I was of course exaggerating to make a point, but he's had a poor pre-season imo. Maybe just lacking...