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I know people are dubious but this is a step in the right direction. We all hate SISU, but we are stuck with them. But all clubs should own their stadiums.

It hasn't fallen apart. It just had to change its course slightly.

But I'm starting to feel cautiously optimistic about Robbsy ( sorry, had to ) He's not someone that's ever peaked and fallen again like Brown, Ince, Boothroyd, Adams etc. He's done a steady job so far, he's spent his time out of management working with some of the best in the game. I'm not...

Thats a good point, in that he's actually worked with and under Fergie.

That will cover everything for the season and it will be pretty much 95% on wages.

I beg your pardon? Do you have some useful info to share that may contradict it?

I heard yesterday they weren't exactly over the moon. I think they wanted someone to come in and shake it up. My mate mentioned Phil Brown as the person they wanted.

Interesting how he said that about Robbins. Worrying really. My mate returned from work at Ccfc yesterday saying how the players aren't really happy with Robins. Maybe that's a little exaggerated, but they wanted Phil Brown. You would hope they'd back whoever gets put in and give them 100%...

I think for Sat I'm just hoping to see some kind of improvement. Even if it's just a clean sheet and a 0-0. Steady the defence first, then look forward. But yes, new man in and a fresh start.

I think that was a very deliberate point he made.

My mate came to the pub thus evening fresh from work at the City ( he painted quite a picture of how hard up we are, but I can't be bothered to type that up ). Anyway on a more relevant point he got the idea the players themselves wanted someone to come in and shake it up. They wanted Brown...

Does he play 4-4-2 with those midfielders?

We're second from bottom of the 3rd tier. We are broke. Beggars can't really be choosers. I think he's a fairly good appointment, not going to set the world alight, but then again we all expected miracles from past managers and nothing happened. Slow and steady wins the race.

Yes I agree. We're all miserable at the mo and it's easy to point the blame. But time for a line in the sand. Let's see how it goes.

Ever the optimist hey?

It's character building at least. I play some BF3 with my mates and my Man U supporting mate quits when it gets too tough. I abuse him and call it Man Utd Fan Syndrome. If its not on a plate and easy he's not interested. Saying that not sure I should inflict this on my 2 month old son anymore.

So Robins has to join knowing he was 2nd choice from the board. We should let him know he was 1st choice from that list with the fans.

I've got to the point now where I'm not bothered anymore. Just utterly useless.

I think the first choice who turned it down was Ince My guesswork not fact btw.

TO be honest I've just got to the point where Im just sat here in completey dismay, almost finding it funny in a laugh or cry kind of way. Just cannot believe it has come to this.