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Unfortunatly we do not know that Valiant we may or may not have been, the whole way the club thinks needs to change, no one is coming out of this smelling of roses, their all to blame in their own right and all are a problem of the bigger picture.

If their good enough then they will raise themselves to the situation that we are in. I have said on many occasions that in my opinion I do not think it would be a bad thing of having a squad of young talented players playing for the team, that way you can hope that they will play as a team...

What happens if we start getting beat though TR on a regular basis, there confidance will be absolutly ruined and is AT the man to pick them up and keep them going? I am not AT 's biggest fan by a long shot but he has had little digs at the kids last season, so I really don't think he will be...

My only point here would be. I have no reservations about keeping or selling Bigi (would prefer to keep him obviously for the future and nurture him into the squad as well as the other young prospects we have) What I can see happening though is with having players like Bigi being first team...

Took the words out of my mouth macca, amazing how people forget what was being said not so long ago, sisu wankers selling our best player,our captain etc, if anyone had wrote anything along these lines not so long ago they would have been sent to coventry and hung/drawn and quartered for saying...

You having an arguement with yourself BSB? :whistle:

Who said he was a failure? I am on about how it gets scrutinized more now, not how we were run then and the way we are run now, it can get talked about by a wider audiance with people you don't know than just a few mates down the pub, also more info is available to fans than it was before the...

We all know about sisu and what they are doing/done to the club NLHWC, but you or I can do nothing about it but be here till the end suppoting the club however we choose to support or our differant views on subjects concerning the club. What else are you going to do about it NLHWC? Other than...

Nor have other players NLHWC but thats the nature of the business, and we find ourselves down in the lower reaches of that business, we are no longer an attractive club and in the prem where we can attract and keep hold of better players, we need to start accepting that unfortunatly, it's not...

Unfortunatly on the other side of the coin why would a player want to stay? We are no longer a good prospect to players, we are what we were, a bottom championship (now 1st division) team who have bobbed around for years going stagnent (long before sisu arrived), so with all the will in the...

Maybe just Maybe they will re-invest? I know the signs from previous years tell a differant story, they may have got us to where we needed to be regarding football wise (off the field), and all the dead wood old management structure has finally gone from the club, and they now have people who...

Well said smileycov, as I put in an earlier post SISU are onto a hiding with some fans as they have no chance of maybe doing something as people just don't believe a word they say, yet believe others, (no i am not a sisu fanboy either). But saying it has happened when nothing has actually...

All boards have been the same regarding season tickets, say one thing but mean another to get fans to buy season tickets, I am not defending SISU, the big differance now with football is that it can get talked about on a larger scale and scrutinized by forums such as this. Years ago no-one...

Im with OSB on this regarding labeling posters who have differant views on the manager, I doubt anyone hates him personally, as I guess non know him personally. My view is that he should not have been given the job, he was a scout who was thrown in at the deep end, however on him taking the job...

I don't know about anyone else but just wish this whole mess was sorted out now. Either sisu get on with it and get the payments HMRC sorted or just decide enough is enough, I know its stating the obvious but I am sick of our club being in limbo now, if there is going to be a takeover by...

Think Tankie could be onto something here. If they do go then they can say that the council/acl or whoever stopped them from fullfilling there plans for the club and so in the end had little choice but to do what they had/have had to do now and in the past to save the club from extinction...

There lies the problem otis, we didnt think they would be daft enough to sell/not reinvest but they did do these things, they will think of something to do that will again not surprise some of us by what measures they will go to make some money out of what is already a deflated squad, they will...

Thing is we all wondered last year how they could keep going with the club as they have been making losses all along and yet they are still here and in charge, only time will tell, as to when and how long they will be around for, and I doubt anyone other than the real people who are involved in...

Lloyd McGrath,then Speedie

Only read a few pages of the thread but I agree with Paxman, otis and others. This is not just about changing just the colour of the kit, its about everything to do with CCFC we have become stagnent and not just under SISU, the whole image of the match day experiance needs a change and rethink...