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  1. duffer

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Maybe you haven't lived long enough mate, because this the current Labour party is most definitely not left wing. Trust me, I am! Also the election is not on a knife edge, particularly in this constituency. So I'm certainly not for the status quo, but I'm also not much for a party that seems...
  2. duffer

    FA allows sex discrimination

    There's some interesting stuff here on this, fwiw. The point about fully transitioned women actually being at a physical disadvantage, is interesting, imho. And I'll leave it at that. If I've offended you @oakey , my genuine apologies. We differ, clearly, but that's no reason for me to insult...
  3. duffer

    FA allows sex discrimination

    The thing about changing facilities is a fair point and that would have to be carefully considered. It's not insurmountable though, is it? Clearly some teams already have trans women who have transitioned, how has it worked there? I think women, like men, clearly have differing views on all...
  4. duffer

    FA allows sex discrimination

    Err... because we're talking about access to football and other sports for women. When it comes to that specifically, your biggest concern seems to be trans women - is that fair to say, or am I misrepresenting you?
  5. duffer

    FA allows sex discrimination

    If you think for a moment I'm suggesting that anyone's safety shouldn't be a consideration, then you're dead wrong. But it's nowhere near as black and white as is being suggested, imho. And I discussed exactly this thread with my wife yesterday, to get her opinion on it. It's fair to say it...
  6. duffer

    FA allows sex discrimination

    I think you're putting words in my mouth there, is it unreasonable to ask why if you're so concerned about girls access to sport you'd be so focussed on this single issue? I'm not trying to minimise it, but I think it's also not unreasonable to point out that you've highlighted a few individual...
  7. duffer

    FA allows sex discrimination

    All I can say mate, is that I accept Oakey has strong opinions on the matter, but it's not unfair to challenge her politely, is it? I'm also not claiming that I'm right either, I don't think this is an area with any easy answers. Just being a woman doesn't necessarily make Oakey right either...
  8. duffer

    FA allows sex discrimination

    I think the difference is that I don't see trans women as a genuine obstacle to other women or girls playing football. There are other issues to girls getting into sport that impact far higher numbers than a handful of trans athletes, surely? Societal attitudes, gender bias, lack of...
  9. duffer

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    I think this is where you're going wrong. Calling it a "flounce" is both massively disrespectful and completely misses the point. I'm struggling to vote for Labour because they've moved away from me on a number of key issues. As I see it, voting for a party closer to what I believe in, is a...
  10. duffer

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Fair enough mate, I get that. I think we probably differ in a couple of things. I don't think people should be compelled to vote, because I see no harm caused to anyone else (or themselves) by an individual not voting. My failing to vote doesn't hurt democracy, my not being able to vote...
  11. duffer

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    All of the non voters in the country are here on this thread? Wow, I don't know how the server keeps up.
  12. duffer

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    How do you know what the people who don't vote think? All these lazy assumptions and clichés, based on literally nothing beyond your own opinion. Part of living in a free country is that not everyone does what you want, get over it and quit whining. If you want bigger uptake in elections...
  13. duffer

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Anyway, putting the compulsory voting issue aside, it certainly is fun to be around for the Tory end-of-times party. Lots of skewering of Sunak and the Tories in the media today. Long may it continue.
  14. duffer

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Are you sure about that? Would you want a situation like North Korea or Russia, where the ruler can claim that he's got the support of 99% of the population? Would you really want to be obliged to vote for a party that you don't believe in...
  15. duffer

    FA allows sex discrimination

    I hear where you're coming from on this, and I'm genuinely sorry that in our generation (you and I are broadly contemporaries), women's and girls football wasn't taken seriously or even was actively discouraged. That was rubbish. Can I just make the polite observation though, that none of the...
  16. duffer

    FA allows sex discrimination

    I've had a browse, the numbers, compared to the number of participants in the sports I looked at, are miniscule. 10 footballers they mention, for example. That's out of 29 million female players, according to FIFA. Personally speaking, this feels a bit like a culture war thing than a huge...
  17. duffer

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    I think if there was a genuine natural disaster on the way, the Tories would be desperate to hang on for it - they've shown they're brilliant at making money for their mates, out of others' grief.
  18. duffer

    FA allows sex discrimination

    Is that really true though? I don't know about you but it's going to take a lot more than the chance of a few medals to get me to part with my impressive three-and-a-half inches of blue steel. 😄
  19. duffer

    FA allows sex discrimination

    Yes, that was my thought too. I'm not claiming I've got the answers here either btw...
  20. duffer

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Voting good. Compulsion to do so bad. Is that simple enough for you? Face it mate, you've got an opinion you can't support except by mindless repetition and unnecessary unpleasantness. It's fucking boring. Get someone coherent if you want to win your 'good fight', you're obviously not quite...
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