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dongonzalos

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ACL, SISU, Council, Higgs and don't declare it.

Gotta say fairplay to PWKH whether you agree with what he says or not, he is the only one on here with the guts to say who he is.

I can't believe that there is no one else.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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No one on here would actually be employed by sisu direct.

Plenty will work for the council.
 
Moff

Moff

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dongonzalos said:
ACL, SISU, Council, Higgs and don't declare it.

Gotta say fairplay to PWKH whether you agree with what he says or not, he is the only one on here with the guts to say who he is.

I can't believe that there is no one else.
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Sorry but this is the most overplayed allegation on the whole board, and no before the pathetic allegations start I dont work for any of the companys mentioned nor would I ever wish to.

Why dont you just create a new forum where we have to give full names and addresses and are subject to full vetting before we post or perhaps we should just get over it and post. :facepalm:
 
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LarryGrayson

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wot i luv is the thought these companys think itd help em out to be part of a massive row lol why cant people just disagree without bein a spy
 
Flying Fokker

Flying Fokker

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It helps the flow of threads if some are more informed than others. Not sure anyone needs to declare an interest in anything although I am partial to apple crumble.
 
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dongonzalos

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Never said anyone had to declare anything I just think FairPlay to PWKH has he is the only one who has to balls to say who he is
 
mattylad

mattylad

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dongonzalos said:
Never said anyone had to declare anything I just think FairPlay to PWKH has he is the only one who has to balls to say who he is
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I said who I was when I joined and its not anything to do with those particular parties! although I was the person who officially broke that SISU had agreed to buy the club about ten minutes before it was announced so maybe I am actually and my bluff is a double bluff on myself.... :eek: perhaps I am really JS and this is why no one has seen her...... and I do sometimes wake up with the words "get your ass to Mars" circulating in my head :eek:
 
Grendel

Grendel

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dongonzalos said:
Never said anyone had to declare anything I just think FairPlay to PWKH has he is the only one who has to balls to say who he is
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Why fair play to him. He only has to say a few words and people like you start salivating. He likes the limelight and if he is an assumed name the message would have less effect.
 
Delboycov

Delboycov

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I think people are very naive if they think that any of the main players in this saga wouldn't have people on their behalf posting on sites like these. As someone who has worked extensively in PR and advertising I'm fully aware that companies and organisations actually employ people to post on social networking sites to promote products,services and to get their message across from an apparent 'neutral' perspective. With it being vital in this long running farce to win the battle of hearts and minds I would be shocked if the parties hadn't tried to influence fans in this way. In fact I think they would be very foolish if they haven't. Fair play to PKWH for at least raising his head above the parapet and remaining unmasked. I think those that shout "conspiracy theory" "James Bond" etc really haven't got a clue as to the way PR works in these days of social media.
 
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rupert_bear

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Lets have a guessing game then who is employed by who. I'll start with Grendel employed by Walt Disney as a dwarf, trying to think which one
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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rupert_bear said:
Lets have a guessing game then who is employed by who. I'll start with Grendel employed by Walt Disney as a dwarf, trying to think which one
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I reckon you are PWKH's secretary.

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Sick Boy

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Delboycov said:
I think people are very naive if they think that any of the main players in this saga wouldn't have people on their behalf posting on sites like these. As someone who has worked extensively in PR and advertising I'm fully aware that companies and organisations actually employ people to post on social networking sites to promote products,services and to get their message across from an apparent 'neutral' perspective. With it being vital in this long running farce to win the battle of hearts and minds I would be shocked if the parties hadn't tried to influence fans in this way. In fact I think they would be very foolish if they haven't. Fair play to PKWH for at least raising his head above the parapet and remaining unmasked. I think those that shout "conspiracy theory" "James Bond" etc really haven't got a clue as to the way PR works in these days of social media.
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It is pretty obvious that the club and ACL will have been trying to influence people on here since the dispute started.
 
Delboycov

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Sick Boy said:
It is pretty obvious that the club and ACL will have been trying to influence people on here since the dispute started.
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I don't doubt it for a second sick boy and if they haven't then they really are missing a trick and failing in their duty to get their message across....Can't believe that there are those that think they wouldn't take advantage of spouting their propoganda free of charge.
 
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Godiva

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Grendel said:
No one on here would actually be employed by sisu direct.
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And this is the reason they are losing (or have lost) the PR war. They should have embraced the opportunity to address the fans on this - or other - forum, but I think they are frightened by the direct and close contact.
Len Brody would have done it, but surely was told to back down.
I hope they are at least reading the forum - they can actually learn a lot by PWKH's approach.
 
mattylad

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Delboycov said:
I think people are very naive if they think that any of the main players in this saga wouldn't have people on their behalf posting on sites like these. As someone who has worked extensively in PR and advertising I'm fully aware that companies and organisations actually employ people to post on social networking sites to promote products,services and to get their message across from an apparent 'neutral' perspective. With it being vital in this long running farce to win the battle of hearts and minds I would be shocked if the parties hadn't tried to influence fans in this way. In fact I think they would be very foolish if they haven't. Fair play to PKWH for at least raising his head above the parapet and remaining unmasked. I think those that shout "conspiracy theory" "James Bond" etc really haven't got a clue as to the way PR works in these days of social media.
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Actually you just buy software and tell it what to look for...for example I could log in to this site set the software to look for anytime some used the term "Balti Pie" and receive an email alert when it is. It works far better on the open media sites like FB and twitter though.
 
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Godiva

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Delboycov said:
I think people are very naive if they think that any of the main players in this saga wouldn't have people on their behalf posting on sites like these. As someone who has worked extensively in PR and advertising I'm fully aware that companies and organisations actually employ people to post on social networking sites to promote products,services and to get their message across from an apparent 'neutral' perspective. With it being vital in this long running farce to win the battle of hearts and minds I would be shocked if the parties hadn't tried to influence fans in this way. In fact I think they would be very foolish if they haven't. Fair play to PKWH for at least raising his head above the parapet and remaining unmasked. I think those that shout "conspiracy theory" "James Bond" etc really haven't got a clue as to the way PR works in these days of social media.
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Sisu are bankers and hedge funds are very private. Add they have no experience with football clubs and fans. They could have a 'plant' here, but I seriously doubt it as they would not be able to control this person entirely due to the rapid response rate required on a forum. And using a plant wouldn't give them any credit anyway - only the open and direct approach would. Like ACL/PWKH.
 
Sky Blue Kid

Sky Blue Kid

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Grendel said:
No one on here would actually be employed by sisu direct.

Plenty will work for the council.
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First one to post a reply eh Grenduffy?
What about Office staff, shop staff, turnstile operators, Stewards, groundstaff....The list is endless.
Or would this all be classed as "Another arm of the business?":facepalm:
What are you again???......Oh yes! a SISU apologist!:eek:
 
Nonleagueherewecome

Nonleagueherewecome

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I'm Gruffy really.
 
Delboycov

Delboycov

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mattylad said:
Actually you just buy software and tell it what to look for...for example I could log in to this site set the software to look for anytime some used the term "Balti Pie" and receive an email alert when it is. It works far better on the open media sites like FB and twitter though.
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I'm not talking about 'spam' though Matty I'm talking about real people posting in 'real time' attempting to influence people's views. I had to do it myself for one client when I was asked to sign up to appropriate forums and suggest to members products my client supplied but from a ordinary joe public perspective and say "Have you tried..?". Most companies do it now and I don't doubt that this now well used PR tactic has been used a lot by the parties over the last few months.
 
Nonleagueherewecome

Nonleagueherewecome

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Moff said:
Were you a gag writer for Jimmy Tarbuck?
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He could have Larry David and Mel Brooks writing for him, yet you'd never laugh.
 
stupot07

stupot07

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Sky Blue Kid said:
First one to post a reply eh Grenduffy?
What about Office staff, shop staff, turnstile operators, Stewards, groundstaff....The list is endless.
Or would this all be classed as "Another arm of the business?":facepalm:
What are you again???......Oh yes! a SISU apologist!:eek:
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But they aren't employed by sisu directly.
 
cloughie

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Godiva said:
And this is the reason they are losing (or have lost) the PR war. They should have embraced the opportunity to address the fans on this - or other - forum, but I think they are frightened by the direct and close contact.
Len Brody would have done it, but surely was told to back down.
I hope they are at least reading the forum - they can actually learn a lot by PWKH's approach.
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They certainly read the forum. I have been told by a current CCFC director, yet I don't know if any one from there actually post on here.
 
Delboycov

Delboycov

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Godiva said:
Sisu are bankers and hedge funds are very private. Add they have no experience with football clubs and fans. They could have a 'plant' here, but I seriously doubt it as they would not be able to control this person entirely due to the rapid response rate required on a forum. And using a plant wouldn't give them any credit anyway - only the open and direct approach would. Like ACL/PWKH.
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I understand they employ a PR firm at great expense though Godiva...wouldn't expect Joy Seppala or Tim Fisher to spend all day posting on here! Although of course that could explain Tim's recent absence ;-)

I know I've given you stick for being a SISU 'plant' Godiva but I know you're not...As I know from doing it myself through my work you have to appear to be balanced...and you are far too pro SISU ;-)
 
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Godiva

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Delboycov said:
I understand they employ a PR firm at great expense though Godiva...wouldn't expect Joy Seppala or Tim Fisher to spend all day posting on here! Although of course that could explain Tim's recent absence ;-)
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Yes they have employed a PR firm - just proving my point that they are scared by direct interaction. It's utterly old fashion - so last century - and not even very effective when you try to influence solely through medias like papers and television where editors often have the final say in how your message is presented.
 
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