Not much sympathy from Walsall (1 Viewer)
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Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Hmmm...
I know there will be £ signs flashing in his eyes, but Uncle Jeff's always been very moral about other clubs cheating. Coventry turning up without a points deduction to potentially scupper our own promotion chances by ruining the pitch even further doesn't sound like his MO.
I know there will be £ signs flashing in his eyes, but Uncle Jeff's always been very moral about other clubs cheating. Coventry turning up without a points deduction to potentially scupper our own promotion chances by ruining the pitch even further doesn't sound like his MO.
SkyBlueBlood
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Irrelevant Yam Yam tin pot club with fans who cant speak English.
Not top of my list today.
Not top of my list today.
Otis
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Farrah? Is he a Saddlers fan too?
SkyBlueJohnso
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how would most city fans if a similar thing happened at Blues or Villa and they came knocking on our door to use the starium for a few games???
can't say i'd be welcoming a load of brummies with open arms!!!
can't say i'd be welcoming a load of brummies with open arms!!!
LarryGrayson
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a better run club then us lol
Surely they are a rival as they are level with less turnover /wages /players and most likely more points given we get -10.
Them no ,but wouldnt have a problem with walsall, or the baggies
1nilandwe...
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Who else is a serious local rival right now? Walsall are a club that could very well finish above us in the league this year, so get off your high horse.
I can't stand all this 'tinpot club' talk, about any team. How about Wigan being a tinpot club? Fulham? Swansea? In fact, we could well be a tinpot club ourselves in the near future if things go particularly badly.
The fact is, all clubs are just as valid as any other and not treating them with respect makes us look like a bunch of arrogant arseholes. Especially considering the situation in which we currently find ourselves.
Also, Johnso makes a valid point.
Surely they are a rival as they are level with less turnover /wages /players and most likely more points given we get -10.
That's a very loose definition of the term 'rival'; when clearly the suggestion is (from them) is that there is some sort of meaningful rivalry between the two clubs, based I imagine on locality, which is absolute shit.
Some people seem to spend their whole day trying to be a smart-arse.
Houchens Head
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Is this predictive text gone wrong? Was it supposed to say Johnsons make a valid paint?
hutch1972
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Exactly right !, 4 things i actually know about Wallsall :
1- Remember them occasionally being on star soccer
2- Alan buckley is the only Wallsall player i remember apart from Fox and Dann
3- supported by a train spotting traitor who is guilty of serious crimes against british music
4- They are a non entity in the west midlands let alone the country.
When is the last time we played Walsall in the league other than this season? How can you be a local rival when we've rarely played them. Its nothing to do with how the clubs are run. Only time I knew anything about Walsall is when they be came are feeder club a few years back
LarryGrayson
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an now well be there feeder club
Nonleagueherewecome
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Didn't Ray Graydon play for them before we signed him? And Kyle Lightbourne?
shropshirecov
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Where are all the people who were praying for Pompey?
what goes around comes around.
SkyBlueJohnso
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i think it will be an interesting atmosphere on sat, as there fans seem to be quite sympathetic towards our situation,
SkyblueBazza
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Born in Walsall & dragged down there many times by my dad as a kid. They are actually very nice people...the accent sadly puts a lot of people off the area & town folk (discrimination that is largely unmentioned!)
Walsall played us in the Championship only a few seasons ago...they do have relatively low gates but then the second flight of football is the best they ever achieved, & with WW, WBA, AV all in easy striking distance they are always going to struggle to fill their stadium. They are also SO tinpot that they are level on points & have largely balanced the books. They may even give us a spanking on April fools day...setting ourselves up to look right mugs with this superior attitude some of us are. So perhaps some on here need to keep up &/or get their facts right &/or get real!?
Walsall played us in the Championship only a few seasons ago...they do have relatively low gates but then the second flight of football is the best they ever achieved, & with WW, WBA, AV all in easy striking distance they are always going to struggle to fill their stadium. They are also SO tinpot that they are level on points & have largely balanced the books. They may even give us a spanking on April fools day...setting ourselves up to look right mugs with this superior attitude some of us are. So perhaps some on here need to keep up &/or get their facts right &/or get real!?
People only started slinging mud after they had read the comments on their website. Seriously, don't expect to make jokes about the blitz and then expect nothing in return.
If anyone has a superior attitude it is them, constantly bleating on about how they make a profit each year. Good for them, but no need to get on your high horse and start labeling other clubs cheats. They bring out the 'cheat' line every time a club goes into administration. That sort of smugness grates after a while.
torchomatic
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Pretty sure he managed them,Maybe player manager after us?/
Walsall fan in peace.
Firstly - agree that any blitz comments are out of order - a misjudged and misguided attempt at humour.
At Walsall we're quite well versed on football finances and in between the attempts at "bantz" on UpTheSaddlers I'd urge you to read the contributions of say Bangsection who is very erudite on the subject.
We don't have a beef with Coventry per se and would usually be as indifferent to you as you would be to us. We share a pretend county but really have no reason to love or loathe eachother. The issue is with clubs who sell their fans, their communities and the very essence of the game and sport in general down the river in an often vain attempt to suck on the ugly tit that is the Premiership. The Premiership, Premier League or whatever is as real a competition as the West Midlands is a county. It is a sporting aboration and is the very opposite of sport, fairness and community. And yet clubs and their sleep-walking supporters mortgage their finances and their dreams upon reaching it, often with the sole objective once there to finish fourth bottom - year after year after year. The only people winning are players who financially gain from the massive telly money and owners who sell equity on the basis of that money. The real football fan? Often forgotten or priced out as the richer, star struck casual fan rocks up to swell the coffers even more.
What often happens is that these clubs don't reach the Premiership and often fall the other way out of The Championship, but then forget that they are now third division clubs with shambolic finances. This is accompanied by a fan base that scoffs at the "tin-pot" entities that they now have to face every week, no doubt reminding themselves that they should be playing at Old Trafford rather than the Bescot. Whilst not paying whatever bills they should be paying they continue to assemble teams on a budget that would be the envy of most at the level whilst seeking sympathy for their new found status and plight.
We've seen it time after time. Leeds (biggest disgrace of the lot), Sheff W, Forest, Leicester, Southampton, Pompey and now yourselves. We are tenants in our ground too. We pay £425,000 a year rent. A third of yours, but given that our tin-pot fan base is around a third of your massive one, the sums are quite easy to do to get to a point of rough equilibrium. We aren't happy with not owning the free-hold to our ground, and the sale of Fellows Park which we owned, to pay for a stadium into which we became tenants, still rankles. Some longstanding Walsall fans still won't attend because of this. But the point is we pay the rent, we pay all the other bills that come our way and we build a team based upon whatever is left over, thus ensuring we always have a team to support.
Of course we'd like to push the boat out and sign more expensive players, live the dream and "go for it" but at the same time enjoy supporting a club that represents its town and its community in a dignified, if humble manner.
So there isn't a sudden and irrational hatred of Coventry. It's just the reaction to another "big" club conducting its affairs in shambolic fashion on the back of a vain hope to join a so-called elite and giving the impression that they're slumming it at our level and trying to find every conceivable loop-hole to wriggle out of its obligations. The up-shot of that is that our league becomes less of a level playing field and clubs like ours (and indeed Orient who are similar to us in many ways) feel a little cheated.
So no hard feelings, I hope you get it sorted in the right way. You are miles from being the worst offenders in this regard and you don't seem to be leaving the tax payer or local businesses in the lurch which immediately elevates you above some of those I mentioned above.
Oh - and Pete Waterman - legend for his early Specials-doesn't really watch us anymore
Firstly - agree that any blitz comments are out of order - a misjudged and misguided attempt at humour.
At Walsall we're quite well versed on football finances and in between the attempts at "bantz" on UpTheSaddlers I'd urge you to read the contributions of say Bangsection who is very erudite on the subject.
We don't have a beef with Coventry per se and would usually be as indifferent to you as you would be to us. We share a pretend county but really have no reason to love or loathe eachother. The issue is with clubs who sell their fans, their communities and the very essence of the game and sport in general down the river in an often vain attempt to suck on the ugly tit that is the Premiership. The Premiership, Premier League or whatever is as real a competition as the West Midlands is a county. It is a sporting aboration and is the very opposite of sport, fairness and community. And yet clubs and their sleep-walking supporters mortgage their finances and their dreams upon reaching it, often with the sole objective once there to finish fourth bottom - year after year after year. The only people winning are players who financially gain from the massive telly money and owners who sell equity on the basis of that money. The real football fan? Often forgotten or priced out as the richer, star struck casual fan rocks up to swell the coffers even more.
What often happens is that these clubs don't reach the Premiership and often fall the other way out of The Championship, but then forget that they are now third division clubs with shambolic finances. This is accompanied by a fan base that scoffs at the "tin-pot" entities that they now have to face every week, no doubt reminding themselves that they should be playing at Old Trafford rather than the Bescot. Whilst not paying whatever bills they should be paying they continue to assemble teams on a budget that would be the envy of most at the level whilst seeking sympathy for their new found status and plight.
We've seen it time after time. Leeds (biggest disgrace of the lot), Sheff W, Forest, Leicester, Southampton, Pompey and now yourselves. We are tenants in our ground too. We pay £425,000 a year rent. A third of yours, but given that our tin-pot fan base is around a third of your massive one, the sums are quite easy to do to get to a point of rough equilibrium. We aren't happy with not owning the free-hold to our ground, and the sale of Fellows Park which we owned, to pay for a stadium into which we became tenants, still rankles. Some longstanding Walsall fans still won't attend because of this. But the point is we pay the rent, we pay all the other bills that come our way and we build a team based upon whatever is left over, thus ensuring we always have a team to support.
Of course we'd like to push the boat out and sign more expensive players, live the dream and "go for it" but at the same time enjoy supporting a club that represents its town and its community in a dignified, if humble manner.
So there isn't a sudden and irrational hatred of Coventry. It's just the reaction to another "big" club conducting its affairs in shambolic fashion on the back of a vain hope to join a so-called elite and giving the impression that they're slumming it at our level and trying to find every conceivable loop-hole to wriggle out of its obligations. The up-shot of that is that our league becomes less of a level playing field and clubs like ours (and indeed Orient who are similar to us in many ways) feel a little cheated.
So no hard feelings, I hope you get it sorted in the right way. You are miles from being the worst offenders in this regard and you don't seem to be leaving the tax payer or local businesses in the lurch which immediately elevates you above some of those I mentioned above.
Oh - and Pete Waterman - legend for his early Specials-doesn't really watch us anymore
A fair post. And in total agreement with the 'pretend county' comment. I wince every time I hear someone say they're from the "West Midlands".
Somebody once told me you make as much from the Sunday market as you do an average matchday. That has to be nonsense surely?
shropshirecov
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Paterson loves him hometown club tho ;-)
fernandopartridge
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Yes, Wigan, Fulham and Swansea are all tinpot clubs.
