What was the sliding doors moment of the season (2 Viewers)

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SkyB

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Feels like a hipster answer but it's Watford at home for me. I know we won but christ did we have to hang on against 10 men for most of the game.

It gave everyone the blueprint on where we were weak. They had a lot of fast, athletic runners and just ran at us through the middle all game

I also agree with the earlier comments, I think we had a squad that had been together for months and everyone knew how to play together. Now other teams have had that adjusting period we've just reverted back to the average.
 
viridisman

viridisman

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I think it started before ipswich.
They just took advantage of what was presented to them.
Spent 1st 3rd of the season battering everyone until Disney soccer Ltd actually did some homework and found us out, a few teams took notice of this and suddenly these dominant plays were nulled out.
Could see it even in victories after Disney, wherever we played the ball, our players were being swamped and couldn't make the successive runs and plays that made us so effective. The times we have won since then were by some freaky goals that either just oddly fell into the net, or a freak shot that found home.
There needs to be a plan B tactically, cuz plan A is now a known thing each and every game.
 
Ccfcisparks

Ccfcisparks

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Ellery Cairo's Wig said:
His mother mentioned it to someone I know but she could have got the wrong end of the stick. Like a lot of these things they are never made public so we will probably never know 100%
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I dont see the benefit to Leeds of paying him that much and not using him as a glorified training dummy at a minimum
 
AOM

AOM

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Think the illness going round along with the tight December schedule wiped quite a few players out, and then losing to Ipswich 3-0 at the end of it.
Was pretty clear MVE was ill during a lot of games (wasn't he physically sick at times?), but still had to take part in most of them and he's looked burnt out recently
 
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CCFCSteve

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Ccfcisparks said:
I dont see the benefit to Leeds of paying him that much and not using him as a glorified training dummy at a minimum
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Wouldn’t surprise me, clubs pay up contracts now and then. They knew he couldn’t deliver at Prem level, had had injury problems and been a good servant for the club over a number of years. I can’t imagine any club would have had to pay Leeds any compensation for subsequently signing him though. He’s a decent player at this level but wouldn’t have solved our recent problems

I’m not sure it’s one sliding doors moment more a mixture of sending offs, illness, poor individual form/errors, iffy refs and being too open away from home. Just hasn’t been going our way recently.

However, another bit of perspective, if anyone had said we’d still be top of the league with Rudoni having been injured and out of form most of the season and wright having only scored a couple in our last 16-17 games, most fans would’ve told them to piss off (or worse).
 
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Hincha

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Blackburn at home was the first game where teams were figuring us out.

Since then it’s been a mixture of:

- small squad
- lack of rotation
- illness
- injuries
- no tactical adaption
- mounting pressure
- unsettled back line

more death by a thousand cuts than a sliding doors moment
 
skybluelee

skybluelee

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Hincha said:
Blackburn at home was the first game where teams were figuring us out.

Since then it’s been a mixture of:

- small squad
- lack of rotation
- illness
- injuries
- no tactical adaption
- mounting pressure
- unsettled back line

more death by a thousand cuts than a sliding doors moment
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Which was also the first game we played as league leaders.

So basically we need Middlesbrough to win tonight so we can get back to playing properly.
 
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CCFCSteve

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Calista said:
He's a much more cultured player though, and would surely have improved our control of games.
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100% he’s technically far better than any of our forwards. Limited pace and physicality though

Might he have nicked a late goal or two extra, possibly but I don’t think it would’ve changed the holes in midfield and teams catching us on the counter which is probably the main reason we dropped points

SU have been on fire recently (second in form league over last 15) and Bamford’s still been out scored by Simms who’s been in a team that everyone agrees has been struggling a bit 🤷‍♂️
 
Tommo1993

Tommo1993

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Ipswich away I think. Wasn’t anywhere near our worst performance but result-wise we had our arses handed to us. I don’t think it helped mentality to be playing them so soon afterwards, and that loss was pretty convincing. I know this was in the thick of flu. But since then I don’t think we’ve been properly at it all.

On an individual basis, quite a few players were overperforming early on.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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Losing BTA is , for me , when the drop off started . His energy around the park keeps us playing at a high tempo , he was scoring goals and was the driving force behind our high press .
Obviously other factors haven't helped but his injury was the catalyst in my humble opinion
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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sotvtoday said:
Perhaps because our strikers have been pretty woeful for the last 2 months (along with virtually everyone except the goalkeeper).
Bamford would have scored goals though, and we would have had several more points.
Still - Doug saved a million quid.
(I realise this is much easier with hindsight, but to me it looked like a no-brainer).
If the idea was to show confidence in Wright and Simms then that has backfired spectacularly.
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Simms record says otherwise. He got the award with Frank, when he had scored something like 9 in 11 games. Wright came back, straight in. Wright is on something like 2 in 20? Simms 10,in 13 starts. I did say to sign Bamford, as well. He would have given us a different option. Frank only has a plan A at the moment. Hopefully he will find a new way, against Middlesbrough.
 
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wingy

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Tommo1993 said:
Ipswich away I think. Wasn’t anywhere near our worst performance but result-wise we had our arses handed to us. I don’t think it helped mentality to be playing them so soon afterwards, and that loss was pretty convincing. I know this was in the thick of flu. But since then I don’t think we’ve been properly at it all.

On an individual basis, quite a few players were overperforming early on.
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Furlong at it, return Furlong at it, should have had Bidwell in the side possibly on both occasions,no messing!
 
alexccfc99

alexccfc99

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Late shout for Rob Edwards being a money chasing twat

They would not be top now if he was still their manager, this manager is a cut above
 
Sky_Blue_Daz

Sky_Blue_Daz

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Thinking about it the effort that hit the post and bounced out to one of our players rather then in off the post or out to a boro player before their first goal. That could of swung the game
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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That game. Frank the tank signing. Assante back on Saturday, everyone fit.I think that is 3 though. Doh! Frank finding another way to play! 4 Double doh!
 
SBAndy

SBAndy

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Here’s hoping it’s the penalty on Monday. I feared that if Wright missed that we weren’t going on to win the game.
 
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