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pusbccfc

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Defending the ticket prices.

Phil Upton being very soft on him.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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What's he said?
Paraphrasing so won’t get it 100% right.

But he argued, the club is a loss making business and with the difference between the parachute payment teams and us, it’s something we do to try and keep up. Also mentioned the cost of other events like concerts.

Mentioned the £30 cap the premiership has but noted they also have hundreds of millions in Premiership tv rights.

Said away fans get to choose if they come or not. Then mentioned the club chooses to support supporters via cheaper season tickets and the club will have lower prices when needed like in midweek January.

Apologies if I misheard or missed anything
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Paraphrasing so won’t get it 100% right.

But he argued, the club is a loss making business and with the difference between the parachute payment teams and us, it’s something we do to try and keep up. Also mentioned the cost of other events like concerts.

Mentioned the £30 cap the premiership has but noted they also have hundreds of millions in Premiership tv rights.

Said away fans get to choose if they come or not. Then mentioned the club chooses to support supporters via cheaper season tickets and the club will have lower prices when needed like in midweek January.

Apologies if I misheard or missed anything
Good point about season ticket price but the non season ticket cost for kids and families isn’t ok and the local radio should challenge him on it
 

Viktor17

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Paraphrasing so won’t get it 100% right.

But he argued, the club is a loss making business and with the difference between the parachute payment teams and us, it’s something we do to try and keep up. Also mentioned the cost of other events like concerts.

Mentioned the £30 cap the premiership has but noted they also have hundreds of millions in Premiership tv rights.

Said away fans get to choose if they come or not. Then mentioned the club chooses to support supporters via cheaper season tickets and the club will have lower prices when needed like in midweek January.

Apologies if I misheard or missed anything
Tbh tend to agree with alot of what he says. You have a choice.

my issue is with kids prices, that’s not on for me and we could clearly do something about that.
 

rob9872

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Paraphrasing so won’t get it 100% right.

But he argued, the club is a loss making business and with the difference between the parachute payment teams and us, it’s something we do to try and keep up. Also mentioned the cost of other events like concerts.

Mentioned the £30 cap the premiership has but noted they also have hundreds of millions in Premiership tv rights.

Said away fans get to choose if they come or not. Then mentioned the club chooses to support supporters via cheaper season tickets and the club will have lower prices when needed like in midweek January.

Apologies if I misheard or missed anything
Yep that was pretty much it. Tbh and I know people won't like this, we're one of only a handful of teams in the Championship who haven't had the benefit of a parachute payment. It's not a level playing field and it's his job to close that gap and give the team a budget to be competitive. I don't remember those teams with parachute payments saying they'd share it out and help subsidise us.

Selfishly my issue with it is as someone who travels, if other clubs reciprocate. It is testing fans loyalty and pockets and the kids costs are ridiculous, but then again arguably taking the seat that could be sold to an adult.

I'm happy with my season ticket cost and nobody forces me to travel, but hopefully we're in the prem next season and its £30.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Good point about season ticket price but the non season ticket cost for kids and families isn’t ok and the local radio should challenge him on it
See he did mention the kid prices stating for home fans we have the family zone where we don’t make much.

Also mentioned concerts and other events don’t now have separate prices for ages.

Agreed tho as think they are simply to high
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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Thought he swerved the FL '18 months' left on contract bit, how about extending it.....changed conversation a bit quickly. Probably wants to use any spare cash for January strengthening!
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Paraphrasing so won’t get it 100% right.

But he argued, the club is a loss making business and with the difference between the parachute payment teams and us, it’s something we do to try and keep up. Also mentioned the cost of other events like concerts.

Mentioned the £30 cap the premiership has but noted they also have hundreds of millions in Premiership tv rights.

Said away fans get to choose if they come or not. Then mentioned the club chooses to support supporters via cheaper season tickets and the club will have lower prices when needed like in midweek January.

Apologies if I misheard or missed anything
That’s a pretty reasonable argument. If 6-8k tickets sold at £35-45 help subsidise cheaper season tickets, the incentives are correct.
 

rob9872

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That’s a pretty reasonable argument. If 6-8k tickets sold at £35-45 help subsidise cheaper season tickets, the incentives are correct.
If it's 6,000 x 4 games at £10 per ticket then that's £240k per season. For all the noise and ill feeling, if season tickets were £10 extra each, it would achieve the same revenue total and I don't think anyone would complain as it would still be good value. For all the bad PR, in hindsight it's not actually getting that much more. Having said that, more games have also gone into category 2 which has gone under the radar and that's the same price that the top category was last season.
 

Balli001

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Ultimately if he offered low concession prices he wouldnt make as much as selling to an adult. Nobody really agrees with the pricing but he is running a business and if he keeps getting near full stadiums then he will charge what he wishes as people will pay it
 

skyblue_55

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I expected to pay more for our season tickets this season, whether in the premier league package or not . A £50 increase would be seen as acceptable to me .
When we get promoted, at the end of this season, I expect a substantial increase will take place , to fund our new players & therefore wages to compete in the premier league .
If fans from other clubs don’t want to pay to come to the CBS , then pack it with our fans , as nobody gives a shit about us , so o wards & upwards Skyblues !
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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If it's 6,000 x 4 games at £10 per ticket then that's £240k per season. For all the noise and ill feeling, if season tickets were £10 extra each, it would achieve the same revenue total and I don't think anyone would complain as it would still be good value. For all the bad PR, in hindsight it's not actually getting that much more. Having said that, more games have also gone into category 2 which has gone under the radar and that's the same price that the top category was last season.
There's no such thing as bad PR.

People fixate on the Cat A+ prices but that makes up 3-5 games + final home games. As you rightly point out, most the games are Cat B which are in and around WBA's 'reasonable' and 'family friendly' prices. Our ST prices are cheaper than most teams in the league and it's probably also true that a lot of clubs in this league need prices relatively low to increase volume of sales, at this moment, we don't because we're riding a wave.

Clubs like Blues have no right to lecture us when they charged Wrexham fans £37 for a midweek game in L1 last season.

Commercially, the club has got the incentives in the right place and if things continue, will be giving up thousands of free season tickets next season. Using my own bad maths, fans overpaying £250 for 2-3 years to get the PL package will be rewarded with a 'free' ST in the Prem. Call me cold hearted, but I'm not shedding a tear for the irregular supporter who has to pay £45 for a one off game.
 

TomRad85

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There's no such thing as bad PR.

People fixate on the Cat A+ prices but that makes up 3-5 games + final home games. As you rightly point out, most the games are Cat B which are in and around WBA's 'reasonable' and 'family friendly' prices. Our ST prices are cheaper than most teams in the league and it's probably also true that a lot of clubs in this league need prices relatively low to increase volume of sales, at this moment, we don't because we're riding a wave.

Clubs like Blues have no right to lecture us when they charged Wrexham fans £37 for a midweek game in L1 last season.

Commercially, the club has got the incentives in the right place and if things continue, will be giving up thousands of free season tickets next season. Using my own bad maths, fans overpaying £250 for 2-3 years to get the PL package will be rewarded with a 'free' ST in the Prem. Call me cold hearted, but I'm not shedding a tear for the irregular supporter who has to pay £45 for a one off game.
I've seen loads of bits online like "they wanted everyone to feel sorry for them a couple of years ago, we won't forget this!" LOL fuck off, firstly its completely unrelated and secondly we got very little sympathy, most fans were calling us tramps and telling us to pay our rent. They can all fuck off imo.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I've seen loads of bits online like "they wanted everyone to feel sorry for them a couple of years ago, we won't forget this!" LOL fuck off, firstly its completely unrelated and secondly we got very little sympathy, most fans were calling us tramps as telling us to pay our rent. They can all fuck off imo.
A lot of those clubs charge £35-38 for an away supporter so the moral grandstanding over £7-10 is cringeworthy. Frankly, King has broken a taboo in football because lots of clubs (particularly teams who have high fill %) will follow suit and bump up concession prices.
 

alexccfc99

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There's no such thing as bad PR.

People fixate on the Cat A+ prices but that makes up 3-5 games + final home games. As you rightly point out, most the games are Cat B which are in and around WBA's 'reasonable' and 'family friendly' prices. Our ST prices are cheaper than most teams in the league and it's probably also true that a lot of clubs in this league need prices relatively low to increase volume of sales, at this moment, we don't because we're riding a wave.

Clubs like Blues have no right to lecture us when they charged Wrexham fans £37 for a midweek game in L1 last season.

Commercially, the club has got the incentives in the right place and if things continue, will be giving up thousands of free season tickets next season. Using my own bad maths, fans overpaying £250 for 2-3 years to get the PL package will be rewarded with a 'free' ST in the Prem. Call me cold hearted, but I'm not shedding a tear for the irregular supporter who has to pay £45 for a one off game.
I raised that point to them, and the fact they charged £35 to watch them play Burton Albion and Blackpool over the festive period in the third division and was met with a load of abuse cause I dared to question Lord Wagner... So feck em
 

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