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Sky Blue Pete

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Yeah but the context is timing etc.

Weren't proposals sent years ago by SISU and Cov Rugby as well? The one where the council said it was a "fishing exercise" or something.
I agree

yes I think so

I think John and coventry rugby are a massive ally in this and have excellent relationshops with the council
 

Balli001

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Haven’t taken it in the wrong way
We have both no power and huge power us fans
We can literally make or break a club
He couldn’t have said that no
He could have said we have other plans that were exploring and will discuss them in good time for our input. No!!!! This looks like he’s deliberately kept something in bad faith
That’s bloody annoying and you and everyone should be annoyed
I take it as an owner is exploring possibilities very loosely as a back up option based on only having a 3 year lease.
 

David O'Day

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it's bollocks - if you read lego heads after his story it's just as even he admits just a sensible precaution
 

Nick

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I agree

yes I think so

I think John and coventry rugby are a massive ally in this and have excellent relationshops with the council


Thats the one, the council tried to put in a clause against football there.

If I remember the council said they hadn't received anything then did a U turn saying they had but it was dismissed for a Fishing exercise.
 

duffer

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No, it was CWR

Coventry City Council has 'no plans' to offer Wasps financial support

Seems pretty obvious that Gilbert has a sympathetic source inside the council and I imagine this is where today’s story is from too

That's a different story. The original story about the council bailing out Wasps in secret was Les Reid.

The council were trying to do a deal in secret, and Reid publicised it. Then, apparently, the council put pressure on the CET to get rid of Reid, they sacked him, he took them to a tribunal and won his case. Massively shabby by both the council and CET. I might not recall what I had for breakfast, but this I remember well.

Edit: Sorry, different bailout, though to the same ultimate end, supporting Wasps with public funds.

 
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Marty

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BPA is a complete non starter. You probably could fit in a 40k stadium if you rotate the ground and pinch a bit of the park next door and build right up to the road.
 

Calista

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Doug King is in no greater position to invest his own money into a new stadium than SISU were.

It was a silly idea then and it’s a silly idea now, we don’t have to pretend that threatening to build a new stadium is now some genius chess move just because the team is in better shape on the pitch.
It's an even less convincing bluff now, because Fisher was threatening a smaller low-cost lego development (to match our on-field status at the time), whereas this time around it's supposedly 40,000.
 

Nick

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That's a different story. The original story about the council bailing out Wasps in secret was Les Reid.

The council were trying to do a deal in secret, and Reid publicised it. Then, apparently, the council put pressure on the CET to get rid of Reid, they sacked him, he took them to a tribunal and win his case. Massively shabby by both the council and CET. I might not recall what I had for breakfast, but this I remember well.


Yeah, it also came out in the court documents that the Telegraph were briefed and "onside" or something but don't think CWR were mentioned.
 

duffer

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Sorry, no, my mistake, the Les Reid saga was about the council bailing out ACL rather than Wasps directly, though obviously it was about making sure the club couldn't get its hands on the stadium.

Hence indirectly supporting the council's Wasps project.

Turned out well, didn't it.
 

bigfatronssba

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Doug King is in no greater position to invest his own money into a new stadium than SISU were.

It was a silly idea then and it’s a silly idea now, we don’t have to pretend that threatening to build a new stadium is now some genius chess move just because the team is in better shape on the pitch.

It is a silly idea I agree.

However the club is in more of a position to do this now than it was when Sisu was here. That’s the only point I’m making. It’s a slightly more believable bluff
 

Seamus1

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I know it’s all likely to be a load of Rollocks, but an issue that would greatly concern me would be sharing with the rugby club and the resulting state of the pitch as we would love through the season.

Had enough pitch issues with Wasps
 

wingy

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Not sure this is really helpful in anyway from Gilbert or CWR a week before the season starts. We don't own the stadium and don't at present have a long term deal to play there, you could easily argue its basic business sense for King to be putting out feelers for other options.

There's so much context missing was this a recent, urgent, conversation with Sharpe and CCC. A 'we're fucked and need somewhere ASAP' type conversation, or was it a 'one day it would be nice to have our own ground' type conversation because they are very different things. Doesn't even seem to say when this took place.

Hopefully the people running the arena just ignore it and it isn't going to cause issues with the negotiations. Last thing we need is a landlord who is pissed off with us.

There's been a lot of speculation that Frasers got involved with the stadium as a PR move with their plans to have a large facility in the area. If that's the case then surely they aren't going to be considering kicking the football club out. The chances of finding another tenant for the stadium bowl for a second time have got to be pretty slim.
They could be open to levelling it in theory, seems mad but it's a fair plot of land, don't know what the Ansty site represents on the profit sheet but bet it's healthy!?
 

wingy

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What is all this we have a cheap deal, yes it may go up if we do too,as you'd expect, even Man City pay £3m for the privilege,if we're making improvements they'll be contra'd off the bill or we'd be stupid.
Anyway Fraser's maybe happy to part with things when the price is right.
 

Lamps

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What is all this we have a cheap deal, yes it may go up if we do too,as you'd expect, even Man City pay £3m for the privilege,if we're making improvements they'll be contra'd off the bill or we'd be stupid.
Anyway Fraser's maybe happy to part with things when the price is right.
£3m isn't much to a club like Manchester City. But if he wants to put our rent up to something similar it would be massive to us.
 

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