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rob9872 said:

Should've been 200 hours community service planting trees and put them in stocks in the space for the public to throw rotten veg at. The extra tourism would've been lucrative for the area.

As for millions of pounds of damage, a tree fell on a wall in the countryside. How its valued I have no idea.

Seem like a pair of cunts though so I'll not lose any sleep over them.

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There is a complicated formula for working out monetry value of trees based on lots of criteria such as environmental air quality, temperature control, species, ecological value, water capture, aesthetic value etc. Trees are incredibly vital, but as for valueing it ar hundreds of millions £, I'm not quite sure.
A replacement 20 foot tree would cost about £20k.

shmmeee said:

Good. They did it intentionally because they thought it was funny. TBH sounds like you would as well. There’s serious penalties and costs for destroying mature trees for very good reason.

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Nowhere in my post did I agree with their actions.You have no idea about me if you think I found it "funny."You seem to value a tree and a wall on a par with human life thats my point

shmmeee said:

Bit of a difference building essential infrastructure after spending billions on consultations for years than getting pissed and taking a chainsaw to an ancient tree for a laugh.

You might want to actually read what HS2 is as well.

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Essential infrastructure HS2 is an absolute con

Please tell me what sense it makes to ruin all the greenbelt and countryside and spend the billions upon billions of pounds we have spent on a new railway line to run exclusively between London and Birmingham that only shaves a short time off the line that already exists?

alexccfc99 said:

Essential infrastructure HS2 is an absolute con

Please tell me what sense it makes to ruin all the greenbelt and countryside and spend the billions upon billions of pounds we have spent on a new railway line to run exclusively between London and Birmingham that only shaves a short time off the line that already exists?

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Because the main objective of it isn't to shave time off the journey from Birmingham to London.

alexccfc99 said:

Please tell me what sense it makes to ruin all the greenbelt and countryside and spend the billions upon billions of pounds we have spent on a new railway line to run exclusively between London and Birmingham that only shaves a short time off the line that already exists?

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This is entirely the problem with HS2. They kept pushing it as 'get to London 10 minutes quicker' which is absolutely not what its about.

At the moment freight and passenger networks are regularly held up as huge regions of the network are single track and local / slow services have to essentially pull over to let the fast trains through. If the fast train is even a couple of minutes late the knock on effect on the network is huge.

HS2 is about capacity on the network. Moving the fast trains to a dedicated line frees up the rest of the network.

Having said that they have absolutely fucked it by not following through with the whole project and as with every infrastructure project in this country the implementation has been appalling. Late and billions over budget.

Government also quietly slipped out the other day that electrification of the existing network is being put on indefinite pause, leading to a large number of job losses.

Saw a graphic a couple of weeks ago of all the announced and then postponed / cancelled rail projects of the last 20 years. Was essentially an entire country-wide rail network that's been sacked off.

Read the criminal damage was put at around 600k. It was a ridiculous thing to do but 4 years is too much. But sets an interesting precedent for these Palestinian Action "vandals" where the damage was estimated over 7 million pounds

thekidfromstrettoncamp said:

Nowhere in my post did I agree with their actions.You have no idea about me if you think I found it "funny."You seem to value a tree and a wall on a par with human life thats my point

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So there’s two levels? Human life and worthless?

I think maliciously planning and executing and then gloating about and then showing zero remorse for a plan to destroy something irreplaceable that took 100 years to build and was valuable to thousands of people when its not your first crime deserves prison, yeah. Read the judgement, I find little to disagree with.