fernandopartridge
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There are questions over some of the evidence used to convict her, it's nothing to do with a pretty face. Anybody who believes in the justice system would support a retrial.
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chiefdave
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I think we need to stage an intervention. That's Lucy Letby and Mattie Heaven shmmeee has said are hot in the last couple of weeks.
David O'Day
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He lives in Bedworth, they probably are to him now.
Nick
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Throw in rose west in her prime and get the party started
This is beneath you.
Oh Me Oh MyraThrow in rose west in her prime and get the party started
Grendel
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Throw in rose west in her prime and get the party started
Joanna Dennehy as well but get worried if she tries to make you wear a dress.
Inquiry!
Another?
Ccfc_Addy
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ITV have produced a really, really good documentary on the case that's on ITVX as well as YouTube:
I really appreciate this documentary for laying out the various issues with both the prosecution and defence cases and letting you draw your own conclusions. Feels like it was a very mismanaged process, at the very least.
I really appreciate this documentary for laying out the various issues with both the prosecution and defence cases and letting you draw your own conclusions. Feels like it was a very mismanaged process, at the very least.
rob9872
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I think everyone accepts her counsel was poor, but iI still can't get past the basic premise of her case:
The deaths weren't before she was there
They stopped when she was caught
They all happened on her shift pattern with nobody else on all those shifts
She made notes about being evil and having killed them
Now I know some of you will have theories to debunk some of the above, but those collective points and the trauma of the families involved, I'd need to see something pretty compelling in her defence to overturn my opinion.
The deaths weren't before she was there
They stopped when she was caught
They all happened on her shift pattern with nobody else on all those shifts
She made notes about being evil and having killed them
Now I know some of you will have theories to debunk some of the above, but those collective points and the trauma of the families involved, I'd need to see something pretty compelling in her defence to overturn my opinion.
Sky Blue Pete
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For murder it’s normally
Motivation and means isn’t it?
Motivation and means isn’t it?
It’s certainly been interesting to see how much energy has been spent in this trial trying (and largely failing) to prove why she didn’t do it, versus trying to establish why she did.
fatso
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Surely they should first of all establish if her conviction was sound?
If not then shouldn't she be released pending a re-trial?
Or am I missing something here?
After all this isnt an appeal process, its her defence claiming that key evidence was withheld and that statements/ evidence from key medical specialists wasn't heard.
(Which makes her legal team look piss poor)
Wouldn't a panel of judges re examine the case and just order a retrial?
If not then shouldn't she be released pending a re-trial?
Or am I missing something here?
After all this isnt an appeal process, its her defence claiming that key evidence was withheld and that statements/ evidence from key medical specialists wasn't heard.
(Which makes her legal team look piss poor)
Wouldn't a panel of judges re examine the case and just order a retrial?
Sky Blue Pete
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They have it’s been rejected hadn’t it
fatso
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There's been new evidence since then, including the fact that key prosecution witnesses were found to be lieing under oath.
And 3 managers from the hospital have been arrested (apparently) and charged with gross negligence manslaughter.
They conspired to blame her for their negligence by all accounts?
(So im told, it could all be BS as I havn't looked too deeply into it myself)
Im definitely going to watch the documentary.
Farmer Jim
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They haven`t been charged, the investigation into them is on going.
The allegations against them, relate to them ignoring and brushing under the carpet complaints / information / concerns about Letby that had been brought to them by other members of staff, to protect their own positions within the hospital.
If they had acted and done something about Letby when they were notified, then further deaths could`ve been prevented, as Letby would`ve been arrested and stopped earlier.
There could still be further charges coming down the pipe line for for her too, as there`s an ongoing investigation into incidents at the Womens hospital in Liverpool, where she did a placement and stuff happened there too.
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Sky Blue Pete
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My statistician friend is in it
Sky Blue Pete
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Watched it now
Am of the strong belief that there’s been a miscarriage of justice and it’s only a matter of time until she’s released
Am of the strong belief that there’s been a miscarriage of justice and it’s only a matter of time until she’s released
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Terry_dactyl
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Yeah, I’m really very far from a conspiracy theorist…from the bits I’ve read/seen there’s a lot to question about her conviction.