Sunderland AFC (9 Viewers)

Rob Roy said:

Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.

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Rob Roy said:

Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.

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Rob Roy said:

Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.

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Rob Roy said:

Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.

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Rob Roy said:

Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.

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WestEndAgro said:

Thanks for that now fuck off

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Rob Roy said:

Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.

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Rob Roy said:

Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.

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The Great Eastern said:

We have to remember what Sheff. Wed did to Peterborough a couple of years ago. 4-0 down from the 1st leg, the Owls came back and won the tie overall.
Any sort of win Friday would be extremely welcome but dont underestimate the fervour from the home crowd and players at the SOL for the 2nd leg.
We're not currently great away from home so watch out....

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Rob Roy said:

Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.

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Rob Roy said:

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away"

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Rob Roy said:

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

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Rob Roy said:

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years.

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Potbellypig said:

If all else fails Roy, you'll fit right in as a Cov fan.

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Rob Roy said:

Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.

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Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.

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Rob Roy said:

Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.

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blunted said:

Playoffs are a whole new start for both clubs.
Could go either way. Past or recent form is no indication of the outcome.
On our day we can be brilliant, or away from home completely lacklustre.

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Rob Roy said:

Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.

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Para1140 said:

Harsh. Hes come on here and been polite

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WestEndAgro said:

Thanks for that now fuck off

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