Do you want to discuss boring politics? (10 Viewers)
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StrettoBoy
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Sky Blue Pete
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Vote green for reform
Sky Blue Pete
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Yeah sunak is the man he’s done and doing such a good job
I didn't need guidance. You do realise I didn't literally ask them who to vote for?
Everyone else was out partying at that age, you were 'chairman' of your course. Hahaha suddenly it all makes sense.
Grendel
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Hes hopeless. It’s a zombie government and a zombie opposition - neither have any vision
I'm not saying you have to vote for Labour.
I'm saying that giving 'self-serving, unprincipled' as a reason not to vote for Labour means you cannot possibly vote Conservative given their behaviour, particularly in the last 4 years.
Brighton Sky Blue
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As a student I campaigned for the only vote I’ve been on the winning side in since 2010. Thought it was easy…
JAM See
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I couldn't give a flying fuck who any of you vote for.
However, if you don't vote, you will go down in my estimation.
"Blah blah, they're all the same, blah blah, they don't represent me, blah blah, the Daily Mail says I should hate Starmer, blah blah the guardian says I should hate Starmer"
Fuck off.
If you don't vote, the rich have won. They've disenfranchised you, not by law, but by social media.
PR and CV.
However, if you don't vote, you will go down in my estimation.
"Blah blah, they're all the same, blah blah, they don't represent me, blah blah, the Daily Mail says I should hate Starmer, blah blah the guardian says I should hate Starmer"
Fuck off.
If you don't vote, the rich have won. They've disenfranchised you, not by law, but by social media.
PR and CV.
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clint van damme
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Think this confirms that Hoyle was talking absolute bullshit when he said what he did durring the Gaza ceasefire vote was about MPs safety.
news.sky.com
Diane Abbott slams Speaker for not calling her to talk on race row despite standing up over 40 times
The MP - who is still suspended from the parliamentary Labour Party - questions "whose interests" Sir Lindsay Hoyle is serving after she did not speak in a debate about her safety.
news.sky.com
Grendel
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Think this confirms that Hoyle was talking absolute bullshit when he said what he did durring the Gaza ceasefire vote was about MPs safety.
Diane Abbott slams Speaker for not calling her to talk on race row despite standing up over 40 times
The MP - who is still suspended from the parliamentary Labour Party - questions "whose interests" Sir Lindsay Hoyle is serving after she did not speak in a debate about her safety.
Apparently she stood up 37 times in the debate and was ignored every time.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Seems he takes his orders from Starmer
StrettoBoy
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shmmeee
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What are you looking for?
Sky Blue Pete
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40+
shmmeee
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Find it interesting to hear moderate Tory voices right now, looking like being on the receiving end of a 2019 style defeat and how the party reacts to that. Almost an exact mirror of Labour. One side says the Tories problem is they aren’t right wing enough, the other that they need to be more moderate to attract voters.
I assume many on here would agree with the former and think the route back to power for the Tories (Labour) is to go full far right (left) to stop losing voters to Reform (Green) rather than becoming blue (red) Labour (Tories).
I assume many on here would agree with the former and think the route back to power for the Tories (Labour) is to go full far right (left) to stop losing voters to Reform (Green) rather than becoming blue (red) Labour (Tories).
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Where do you stand on spoiling your ballot? Thats probably what I'll be doing. (My constituency is nailed on labour regardless by the way)
shmmeee
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Just save yourself the hassle and don’t vote if that’s what you want to do. Spoiling a ballot seems to only serve the purpose of being able to tell people you know that you spoiled your ballot because your political opinions are special and you’re not just too lazy or inflexible to vote.
You have said you would vote for them if they have a good manifesto.
I just don't see how it's possible to say you won't vote Labour for your given reasons (which is fine, perfectly entitled not to vote for them), yet then consider voting Tory when those reasons are even more applicable to them. It's crazy!
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Thats one opinion. Surely its better than not voting as a spoiled ballot is counted?
What if all the millions of people who feel disenfranchised, disaffected, angry, un-represented, conned, fed-up or just apathetic actually went to the polls & spoiled their ballots?
EDIT: What is spoiling your ballot, and how do you do it? - Voting Counts
shmmeee
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Then nothing would change. It’s recorded, but just an overall number. There’s no granular data on why people did it. It might be a small segment on the news about how we must engage more, and we’d carry on as normal. There’s no mechanism whereby it would lead to change.
If you want to change politics you have to do it the old fashioned way of convincing a large amount of people to think like you. The fact is that like yourself, those thinking of spoiling their ballot rely on being in safe seats by definition. Which means that their vote by definition doesn’t matter that much to those trying to get elected. So they can be safely ignored. Because if it wasn’t a safe seat, deep down, we all know you’d be able to find someone you can hold your nose and choose as the shiniest turd.
From the little I’ve seen close up of electoral politics, spoiled ballots are at absolute best a funny story cos someone drew a cock. They’re generally seen as akin to the green pen brigade that write letters to the telegraph, the weird bloke who comes to surgery to complain about his neighbours wall, and other political oddballs you can safely ignore.
Grendel
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Have a no suitable candidate option on the ballot
fernandopartridge
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Grendel
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Abbott has now shared info about labour figures on WhatsApp saying similar offensive things about her - so she’s toast
fernandopartridge
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I reckon Shmmeee knew this was coming next hence his earlier posts
shmmeee
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Amazing batshittery. Truly next level.
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Good. She does that really patronising thing where she continuously closes her eyes briefly when she's explaining to people who actually do have a clue.
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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He would be a really good used car salesman.
