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shmmeee

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Another one of those Extremists Sunak was warning about at his lectern in front of No.10 the other week



I wonder how he’s going to manage this one.






Him saying “she makes you want to hate all black women” has nothing to do with her gender or the colour of her skin.



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fernandopartridge

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Weird decision to join yet another party by 30p Lee. NHS was likely to lose his seat this year but even more so standing for them.

I guess it's time for him to make as much noise as possible and then try and milk it for money on the right wing media.
There was a report in one of the papers late last year that he'd been offered significant £ to join Reform.

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wingy

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What's going on with Tommy Robinson should have been in court this morning, not some arrest to give credence or not to Sunaks speech last week is it?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Just finished the rest is politics
Such a shame that integrity and honesty are so denigrated in public office
Not saying I’m perfect far from it but you would hope these are traits to admire and pursue
How Boris reached the highest office in the land is utterly bizarre and says more about us than him
 

Mild-Mannered Janitor

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And landlords, don't forget them despicable buggers feeding off the other side of society, get out the way and let people own them instead paying your mortgage!All stacked in their favour with this help, that tax benifit guaranteed, some right shady buggers getting in there accessing dodgy money,stick your HMO's and flat conversions up yer arse!
It's time to confess that I am a landlord, purchased it with some savings to provide an alternative to my pension savings a 15 years ago and give me a monthly fixed amount when I retire as opposed to trusting annuities and me dying straight away and the wife/children not having any benefit from that pension.
I have the same tenants are still in there, yes, they are paying for the investment, but equally, it started at £500 rent and we have never increased it in all the years they have been there and always give them the December money back for Christmas

I have offered for them to buy it but they don't want to and are happy with staying rented, which some are, but what they all need, is protection around the scandalous rents that the majority do charge and continue to increase but sadly, you only have to look at the US and the private rented sector and big funds owning the majority of the market, its happening here and all around Wembley as an example is private PRS charging a fortune.
It will either be unaffordable in the future, crash down in values, or leave local authorities paying a fortune to house people in 1 bedsits in a shared HMO's or PRS apartments. Cracking down on private landlords is one element but its the big PRS players that are driving a crazy market, same as for the student market
 

wingy

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Just finished the rest is politics
Such a shame that integrity and honesty are so denigrated in public office
Not saying I’m perfect far from it but you would hope these are traits to admire and pursue
How Boris reached the highest office in the land is utterly bizarre and says more about us than him
He's back in some form!
 

skybluetony176

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Argentina borrows money denominated in other currencies, the UK does not do that nor need to.

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Not sure that’s 100% correct. IIRC from something I read a long time ago the government doesn’t but the BOE does, especially in USD and EUR. We might not be as exposed as Argentina given the Peso is worthless (especially true since it’s lurch into right wing populism) but we are exposed at least through the BOE.
 

fernandopartridge

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Not sure that’s 100% correct. IIRC from something I read a long time ago the government doesn’t but the BOE does, especially in USD and EUR. We might not be as exposed as Argentina given the Peso is worthless (especially true since it’s lurch into right wing populism) but we are exposed at least through the BOE.
No it doesn't, it might have foreign currency reserves but they are a different thing

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CCFCSteve

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More fringe views from the erm Financial Times



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Never trust a Twitter/X page which doesn’t link whole article

This wasn’t FTs view it was a debate article from 2020…prior to rampant inflation. The exert was written by…..surprise surprise…

The writer is a professor of economics and public policy at Stony Brook University and author of the forthcoming book “The Deficit Myth”


The funny thing is the article was debating the risks of inflation and whether the covid monetary policy ie everyone printing hundreds of billions, might cause inflation. The alternative view

‘This dangerous monetary practice ensures inflation is around the corner’

We all know what happened next…..
 

fernandopartridge

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Never trust a Twitter/X page which doesn’t link whole article

This wasn’t FTs view it was a debate article from 2020…prior to rampant inflation. The exert was written by…..surprise surprise…

The writer is a professor of economics and public policy at Stony Brook University and author of the forthcoming book “The Deficit Myth”


The funny thing is the article was debating the risks of inflation and whether the covid monetary policy ie everyone printing hundreds of billions, might cause inflation. The alternative view

‘This dangerous monetary practice ensures inflation is around the corner’

We all know what happened next…..

You think the inflation driven by energy costs, supply constraints and then by war was due to "covid printing money".
 

CCFCSteve

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You think the inflation driven by energy costs, supply constraints and then by war was due to "covid printing money".

It was the perfect storm but there is no doubt that printing money especially during a supply side shock had a significant affect on inflation. I’ve said before have a look at what’s happened to asset values, especially US stock market even prior to war. Look at what you can buy for your pound or dollar today compared to say 15 years ago. I could go on but as I’ve said before we’ll have to agree to disagree

The point of my post wasnt to get into the debate again but to say that the X post was disingenuous
 

skybluetony176

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Tories doing the rounds this morning again covering themselves in glory. Not only do they not intend to give the money back they’d except more from him.

Looks like Abbot has reported him to the police specifically on the someone should kill her part.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Tories doing the rounds this morning again covering themselves in glory. Not only do they not intend to give the money back they’d except more from him.

Looks like Abbot has reported him to the police specifically on the someone should kill her part.
If an equivalent on the Labour side said the same about a Jewish figure we all know what the headlines would be and Sky would be reporting ‘Labour denies they are like Nazis’ again.

Maybe it should be ‘Tories deny they are like KKK’
 

shmmeee

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Do wish we’d stop pretending we don’t understand hyperbole and rhetoric. “Needs shooting” is not a genuine call for violence against someone.
 

shmmeee

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Well John McDonnell said the same about Thatcher

And Phillips about Corbyn. It’s a tried abd tested political tactic to pretend you don’t understand language to frame your opponent as violent. Just silly all round and minimises actual violent speech.
 

JAM See

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Do wish we’d stop pretending we don’t understand hyperbole and rhetoric. “Needs shooting” is not a genuine call for violence against someone.
It's the narrative that's worrying.

You seem to be giving the green light to racist misogynist 'banter' in public places.

I'd be horrified if I heard that type of language at the match.

Do SWFC 'fans' have the right to say that Kasey Palmer's behaviour makes them hate all black men?
 

shmmeee

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It's the narrative that's worrying.

You seem to be giving the green light to racist misogynist 'banter' in public places.

I'd be horrified if I heard that type of language at the match.

Do SWFC 'fans' have the right to say that Kasey Palmer's behaviour makes them hate all black men?

Not sure if you’ve misread, nowhere am I talking about the racist or misogynistic language, except where I expressed dismay at the blatant lie that it wasn’t racist and misogynistic.

My issue is with reporting him to the police for incitement to violence when that very clearly wasn’t what happened. Saying someone needs shooting is a very normal figure of speech which in no way is a call to violence.
 

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